CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

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Hendrik_2000

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The PLA spoke person said that CV17 will have more reliable engine and has larger hangar as well as better sensor,weapon. He hinted that launch is soon
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China's first domestically built aircraft carrier is being outfitted with equipment and the work is progressing smoothly, Defense Ministry spokesman Wu Qian said on Thursday.

As for the carrier's launch, Wu said the date is coming soon and "we won't keep the public waiting for too long".

Wu made the remark in response to media speculation that the new carrier would be launched on April 23-the 68th anniversary of the founding of the People's Liberation Army Navy.


Outfitting usually implies installing radar, engines and other key components. But some equipment, like the weapons systems, also has to be installed after the ship has been launched into the water, said Zhu Chenghu, a professor at National Defense University.

"The launch is only the first step," he said. "By current progress, the new carrier would still have to undergo one to two years of testing, both at the dock and at sea, before it could be officially handed to the Navy.

"Nevertheless, China launching its first domestically designed aircraft carrier is a monumental step toward building a world class navy," he said. "The valuable lessons learned from building a carrier from scratch will help China build more carriers faster in the future and enable them to reach combat readiness quicker."

According to the Defense Ministry, the new aircraft carrier is under construction in Dalian, Liaoning province. It will have a displacement of about 50,000 metric tons, as well as conventional engines and fighter jet launch systems similar to those of the CNS Liaoning-China's first aircraft carrier.

The most important difference lies in the roles of the two vessels, Zhu said. While the Liaoning is primarily for training and research purposes, the new carrier will focus on combat and defense.

The new carrier will have more cargo room, more sophisticated radar, more advanced weapons systems, and more reliable engines than the Liaoning, which was refitted from an unfinished Soviet-era carrier-the Varyag-that "did not leave much leeway for optimization and improvement due to its old design," he added. It was commissioned by China in 2012.


PLA Major General Peng Guangqian, a military strategist, said China's carriers, as well as the carriers from other nations, are still far behind US carriers in terms of size, scale and combat capability, "because US Navy doctrine requires unchallenged global dominance, while Chinese carriers are mainly used for self-defense".

When asked about the Chinese military's recent drills on the Chinese side of the Sino-Myanmar border following clashes between Myanmar security forces and ethnic rebels, Wu said the drills were part of the annual training schedule and China had informed Myanmar of the drill before it began.

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Hendrik_2000

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Actually, the spokesperson wasn't the one claiming it has a larger hangar.

Li Jie Did. It only make sense since they start with clean sheet and the old Soviet Granit is not needed anymore and mover around the weapon elevator
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China’s defence ministry has confirmed that the country’s first locally built aircraft carrier has entered its final stage of construction before the hull is launched, which media reports suggest could be as early as April 23, the founding anniversary of the navy.

“China’s first home-built aircraft carrier is now being fitted out, everything is going very smoothly,” defence ministry spokesman Wu Qian said on Thursday when asked about the carrier’s upcoming launch.

“Regarding the news [about wether the ship will be launched in time for the navy’s anniversary] I believe you won’t have to wait too long.”

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Earlier this week, mainland media reported that the carrier, temporarily named the Type 001A, would be launched on April 23, the 68th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Liberation Army Navy.

Citing sources close to the navy, the South China Morning Post earlier this week reported that President Xi Jinping might attend the launch.

The new carrier will be similar to the Liaoning, China’s first carrier which was refurbished from the half-completed carrier Varyag that Beijing bought from Ukraine in 1998. It will also be equipped with a ski-jump take-off ramp.


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However, Beijing-based naval expert Li Jie said the layout, equipment and overall operational concept of the Type 001A would be more advanced and functional than the Liaoning.

According to Li, certain weapons were excluded from the Type 001A platform to allow the ship to park more J-15 fighter jets. The hangar was also being expanded to allow the new carrier to carry between six and eight more J-15s than the Liaoning.

“The ongoing fit-out is preliminary to the carrier’s launch. Other follow-up work will be carried out after the giant ship enters the water,” Li said.

“It’s a complicated and huge project to move such a huge hull from land to sea.

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“Many key weapons and pipelines will be installed after the launch, to prevent the equipment from being damaged while the ship is being moved.”

Compared with the Liaoning, the Type 001A could carry more helicopters and fixed-wing early-warning aircraft, Li said. The country’s most advanced S-band radars and four batteries of HQ-10 short-range air defence missiles with 24 tubes each would also deployed on the new ship, Li said.

The HQ-10 missile system is mounted on the navy’s most advanced Type 052D destroyers and Type 056 frigates, while the S-band radar system is capable of covering a 360-degree search field to scout dozens of targets in the air and at sea.
 

Intrepid

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Those model doesn't tell you anything period. It meant to tell the sequence of assembling the ship and not official model anyway
it shows in a model what we are not allowed to see in real pictures: like *this*.

By the way, interesting: they put two modules together with a gap for four weapons elevators between them, that aren't used on Liaoning: *clickme*.
 
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Jeff Head

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The PLA spoke person said that CV17 will have more reliable engine and has larger hangar as well as better sensor,weapon. He hinted that launch is soon

Wu made the remark in response to media speculation that the new carrier would be launched on April 23-the 68th anniversary of the founding of the People's Liberation Army Navy.
Interesting.

This launch may well occur abou the same time the new US Ford carrier, CVN-78, goes on its first sea trials.

We expect that to happen some time in april.
 

kwaigonegin

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I believe the hanger is bigger than Liaoning but I like to know where they squeeze the additional real estate. Liaoning already made good use of it with the removal of the granit etc.

I would love to see the guts of shandong.. The blueprints. It looks like the interior space may have been totally redesigned and indigenous even though the exterior is still the same for the most part.
 

Jeff Head

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I believe the hanger is bigger than Liaoning but I like to know where they squeeze the additional real estate. Liaoning already made good use of it with the removal of the granit etc.

I would love to see the guts of shandong.. The blueprints. It looks like the interior space may have been totally redesigned and indigenous even though the exterior is still the same for the most part.
I agree. To add eight more of those big honkin flankers (J-15s) into the hangar represents a lot of space.
 
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