Yes and no. Money fixes everything. Having a strong economy with an efficient central government can make anything happen. I'll stop here before it goes down the rabbit hole.
CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations
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Yes I agree on the part regarding carrier design and the examples given, however with regards to constructing a carrier itself, including procedures and material, (from my knowledge) Russia (Ukraine) certainly did not lend any technical personnel or equipment to assist in the refitting and building of 16 & 17. One of the particular case that I knew was the problem of arresting gear which required the development of extremely strong and tensile steel that the Chinese industry has to figure out themselves, the Russians likely wanted to make a profit off selling the gear but also probably for strategic reasons refused to sell the equipment.
Their submarines (SSBN and SSN) are so much more capable than what the PLAN has at it's disposal with the Type 093 SSN and Type 094 SSBN. They also have the upperhand in heavy 40 ton plus helicopters.
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Yeah sorry, I meant in terms of further development of the aircraft carrier program. But in any case it doesn't appear likely that sharing nuclear submarine technologies is going to happen.
Of course there are any number of areas where cooperative development and/or manufacturing between Russia and China is at least conceivable, though truly win-win opportunities for cooperation will necessarily be limited by Russia's own imperative to maintain the "full-spectrum development and manufacturing" capacity of its MIC. Looking to the future, it is conceivable that Russia could seek to purchase or license China's EMALS system as something that Russia could develop themselves, but which doesn't make economic sense to do so in light of the low number of systems required, a readily available alternative, and no compelling "strategic autonomy" argument to override such "commercial" considerations.
Of course there are any number of areas where cooperative development and/or manufacturing between Russia and China is at least conceivable, though truly win-win opportunities for cooperation will necessarily be limited by Russia's own imperative to maintain the "full-spectrum development and manufacturing" capacity of its MIC. Looking to the future, it is conceivable that Russia could seek to purchase or license China's EMALS system as something that Russia could develop themselves, but which doesn't make economic sense to do so in light of the low number of systems required, a readily available alternative, and no compelling "strategic autonomy" argument to override such "commercial" considerations.
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Russian (and Ukrainian) help, both direct and indirect, have been critical in China's carrier program development, i.e. Varyag, T-10K-3. In fact, their help has also been instrumental in China's overall naval development. They're reflected in the acquisitions of Sovremenny destroyers, Kilo conventional submarines, Zubr LCAC and critical subsystems such as GT-25000 gas turbine, various radar systems, missiles and CIWS etc. They not only filled some critical needs at the time, but also influence the future development of the respective indigenous naval programs.
Without Russia help and input, China's naval program development would have been significantly delayed.
To be sure, China has had her long-term strategy and planning for the navy. As early as in 1980's, China had already had its first training and graduating class for carrier captains. It had been studying carrier design, construction and operations for a long time. It is this vision, studies and programs that had driven and strung together these acquisitions and developments, aided by the booming economy and the vast, fast-developing industrial base including the ship-building industry, into a coherent and successful program.
The latter is what differentiates Chinese from Indian carrier developments. India has all the access to foreign technologies and more.
Without Russia help and input, China's naval program development would have been significantly delayed.
To be sure, China has had her long-term strategy and planning for the navy. As early as in 1980's, China had already had its first training and graduating class for carrier captains. It had been studying carrier design, construction and operations for a long time. It is this vision, studies and programs that had driven and strung together these acquisitions and developments, aided by the booming economy and the vast, fast-developing industrial base including the ship-building industry, into a coherent and successful program.
The latter is what differentiates Chinese from Indian carrier developments. India has all the access to foreign technologies and more.
Hendrik_2000
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She is out in SCS
no escorts？
If you have a big enough Dong, you don't need no escorts...
Jokes aside, look 2 kilos ahead of her, slightly to the port side. I think usually escorts would spread out and keep some distance from the carrier. So if you are zoomed in onto the carrier, you may not see the escorts.
hahahahahaha yeah I see it now
Judging from the length it's probably a destroyer? but I guess it could be just a 054 since they are just taking a stroll off the coast of hainan
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