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asif iqbal

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Congrats to all Chinese

Now please show us some dual carrier photos waited too long now

Each carrier should have on deck 12 x J15 with 6 helicopters each

If they want to add Type 055 and Type 901 they can

however 2 carriers in one shot would be 3rd country after US and UK
 

Appix

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by78

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Shandong related photos, plus a retrospective in old images.

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Blitzo

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Relax; it was a lighthearted comment. Maybe I should've put in a few emojis to make that point. Of course they're not going to fly in the "Paramount Leader" in on a prototype plane and land on a brand-new vessel with other precious members of the Politburo nearby.

But there was nothing stopping them from transporting Xi in on a Z-18 helicopter.



Despite it being intended as a half-joke, do keep in mind that the Chinese, and the PLA in particular, are no strangers to undertaking bold risks. Such as testing a live atomic warhead on a barely-tested ballistic missile. Or landing on an airbase with a Q-5 laden with a live thermonuclear device with thousands of personnel still inside the compound.

There are some light hearted jokes which can be appropriately made about the PLAs cautiousness and conservatism, but what you chose to write about was not logical.

The PLA most certainly have undertaken bold (arguably irresponsible) risks before when such risks were necessary, in the more distant past.


The reason I deliberately called you out is because the degree of additional risk for your hypothetical commissioning event was wholly disproportionate to whatever necessity or benefits it would have provided compared to doing a normal commissioning ceremony.


I certainly could've written something more light-hearted in tone to what you did, but I suspect it wouldn't have been constructive to you at all.
 

vesicles

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Congratulations, PLAN!

About the tight lips on the pennant number, a simple explanation would be to make sure that their thunder is not stolen. Just think about any movie premiere. Yes, any movie has been made to be shown to as wide an audience as possible. And yes, everyone in the world will end up watching it (well, at least this would be the hope of the movie makers). Yet, every movie maker is very tight-lipped about the plots of their movies (except the trailers to peek the interests of the potential audience).

The more you keep something secret, the more people want to know..... and the bigger the thunder. And when your big boss is planning to show up for the big reveal, you want the thunder as loud as possible.
 

SinoSoldier

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There are some light hearted jokes which can be appropriately made about the PLAs cautiousness and conservatism, but what you chose to write about was not logical.

The PLA most certainly have undertaken bold (arguably irresponsible) risks before when such risks were necessary, in the more distant past.


The reason I deliberately called you out is because the degree of additional risk for your hypothetical commissioning event was wholly disproportionate to whatever necessity or benefits it would have provided compared to doing a normal commissioning ceremony.


I certainly could've written something more light-hearted in tone to what you did, but I suspect it wouldn't have been constructive to you at all.

What part of "lighthearted" do you not understand? Even after explicitly explaining to you that it was never intended to be taken seriously, you are still trying to logically take it apart as if it were a serious proposition.

What's next, a Diplomat article on the inconsistencies and fallacies of Ace Combat video games? o_O
 
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En attendant un article publié sur son sujet, voici un historique court du 2e porte-avions chinois 17 Shandong : 2013.11 - Découpe de la 1ère tôle 2015.03 - Mis sur cale sèche 2017.04 - Mis à flot et début d'agencement 2018.05 - 1ère sortie à la mer 2019.12 - Entrée en service
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Pending an article published on its subject, here is a short history of the 2nd Chinese aircraft carrier 17 Shandong: 2013.11 - Cutting of the 1st sheet 2015.03 - Put in dry dock 2017.04 - Put afloat and start of layout 2018.05 - 1st exit at the sea 2019.12 - Entry into service
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azretonov

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Commissioned at last. I bow before the Chinese for their tremendous efforts. Indeed, not all can achieve what they have achieved today as Russia proves how true this is with the Project 11435 Admiral Kuznetsov. Rather ironic in a sense.
 
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