CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

[H2O]

big cleaning - may be commission in another harbour?

Not if the scaffolding and other construction equipment is still onboard. This greatly depends on the timestamp of those pictures posted by Deino and by78.

 

[Tam]

big cleaning - may be commission in another harbour?

That is the feeling I get. Instead of commissioning it in the yard, they may decide to commission it in a naval base. Most likely the same base where the Liaoning and Nanchang are stationed at.

 

[Franklin]

That is the feeling I get. Instead of commissioning it in the yard, they may decide to commission it in a naval base. Most likely the same base where the Liaoning and Nanchang are stationed at.

There are only two naval bases in China that can moor the Type 001A, Qingdao and Hainan. I very much doubt that it will be commissioned there isn't even a pennant number painted on it.

 

[Jura The idiot]

now noticed the tweet

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Selon le ministère taïwanais de la Défense, le 2e porte-avions chinois, qui n'est pas encore en service actif, a traversé le détroit de Taïwan aujourd'hui accompagné de ses navires d'escorte. L'US Navy et la JMSDF ont également envoyé des bâtiments pour le suivre.
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According to the Taiwanese Ministry of Defense, the 2nd Chinese aircraft carrier, which is not yet in active service, crossed the Taiwan Strait today accompanied by its escort ships. The US Navy and the JMSDF also sent buildings to follow him.

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[Tam]

There are only two naval bases in China that can moor the Type 001A, Qingdao and Hainan. I very much doubt that it will be commissioned there isn't even a pennant number painted on it.

Based on the last post it is headed to Hainan. There might have been a change of procedure with the trails this year. Sending two 052DG still on trials to naval bases in the North Sea and East China Sea Fleets, shows a change in procedure. This means the Chinese Navy will do a much more active role with the ship trials. As for commissioning, many ships are commissioned in the naval bases while some are in the shipyard. There doesn't seem to be any rule that would decide one or the other. But what I see, starting recently, is that the Chinese Navy appears to be taking greater or hands on trials with the ship. Even with the trials of the DDG 136 Hanzhou refit, the ship was seen and photographed in the naval base. So it will no longer be unusual from this point on, for ships to be still in trials, to be sent and seen in naval bases.

 

[Tam]

These two guys on Twitter called it. This may not be a sudden move. 002 may have been planned to be assigned in the South China Seas all along, nixing predictions by observers like us looking for a commissioning either in the shipyard or a north sea naval base like Qingdao. The obvious clue was the assignment of a Type 901 to the South China Seas Fleet.

This guy @horobeyo in Twitter called it right.

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南海艦隊公式WeChatより、901型総合補給艦二番艦査干湖艦は南海艦隊所属することを明らかに

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From the Nankai Fleet official WeChat, it is clear that the No. 901 general supply ship No. 2 inspector Lake belongs to the Nankai Fleet

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ってことは初の国産空母002型も南海艦隊に配属する可能性が高い
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That means that the first domestic aircraft carrier 002 is also likely to be assigned to the Nankai Fleet
8:30 PM · Nov 16, 2019·Twitter Web App

This guy @MERAK posted it first in November 15.

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002，11月15日结束渤海迎接J-15后，准备一路南走，目标南海。
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002, after the end of the Bohai Sea to meet the J-15 on November 15th, prepare to go all the way south, the target South China Sea.

 

[Jura The idiot]

Today at 10:20 AM

now noticed the tweet

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Selon le ministère taïwanais de la Défense, le 2e porte-avions chinois, qui n'est pas encore en service actif, a traversé le détroit de Taïwan aujourd'hui accompagné de ses navires d'escorte. L'US Navy et la JMSDF ont également envoyé des bâtiments pour le suivre.
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According to the Taiwanese Ministry of Defense, the 2nd Chinese aircraft carrier, which is not yet in active service, crossed the Taiwan Strait today accompanied by its escort ships. The US Navy and the JMSDF also sent buildings to follow him.

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China's first homemade aircraft carrier sails through Taiwan Strait

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Carrier known as 'Type 002' first, largest ever built by China

China's first domestically built aircraft carrier passed through the Taiwan Strait on Sunday (Nov. 17), followed by two U.S. and Japanese military vessels, Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense (MND) has announced.

The north-to-south passage was closely monitored by Taiwan's navy, the ministry said.

The carrier, known as Type 002, is the largest warship ever built by China. Sunday marked its first appearance on the strategic waterway.

Another high-profile passage through the Taiwan Strait by a Chinese aircraft carrier was on June 25. It was the Soviet-built Liaoning's first such transit since undergoing a major refit last year.

 

[asif iqbal]

Why was the US and Japan tailing

just China’s back yard

 

[Jura The idiot]

Why was the US and Japan tailing

just China’s back yard

ever heard of

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Mr. Iqbal?

 

[Jura The idiot]

anyway more viewpoints:
China's first locally-made aircraft carrier transits Taiwan Strait
2019/11/17 20:34:44

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China's first domestically-built aircraft carrier sailed through the Taiwan Strait on Sunday, the same day Taiwan's independence-leaning Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) announced its presidential ticket for the 2020 election.

The Chinese aircraft carrier, together with escort ships, entered the Taiwan Strait from the East China Sea and sailed southbound, a statement from Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense (MND) said on Sunday.

Military ships from the United States and Japan tailed the Chinese aircraft carrier, the MND said, without revealing further details.

Taiwan's Armed Forces fully monitored the Chinese aircraft carrier's movement to ensure national security as well as regional stability and peace, the ministry said.

The MND did not say whether the Chinese aircraft carrier is still in the vicinity of the Taiwan Strait.

The transit by the Chinese warship, known as Type 002, came at a time when President Tsai Ing-wen (蔡英文) announced former Premier Lai Ching-te (賴清德), who has called himself a "pragmatic worker for Taiwan independence," as her running mate for the 2020 election.

Beijing sees Taiwan as a breakaway province and has warned from time to time that it would use force if the island attempts to declare independence.

A security official told CNA that an attempt to influence Taiwan's presidential and legislative elections, which are set to be held on Jan. 11, 2020, could be one of the motives behind the transit.

China could also be trying to send a message to the United States as the U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper is embarking on a four-nation Indo-Pacific tour, he said.

Aside from that, Beijing could also intend to apply military pressure to Hong Kong as Chinese President Xi Jinping (習近平) instructed relevant government agencies earlier this month to "end violence and restore order" in the financial hub, he said.

The official, who asked not to be named due to the sensitivity of the issue, said Beijing's strategy could cause a backlash as demonstrated by the tailing of USS Wayne E. Meyer, an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer in the U.S. Navy.

The transit had more symbolic than military significance as the Type 002 is not yet battle-ready, he further said.

On the other hand, Lu Li-shih (呂禮詩), a former captain of the Republic of China (Taiwan) Navy corvette Xinjiang told CNA that the transit may be completely unrelated to the DPP's announcement of its presidential ticket.

China's military ships usually move to the warmer Hainan Province in the south for training during winter time, to avoid the freezing of ship deck which impedes training such as plane landing, Lu said.

That view was shared by Su Tzu-yun (蘇紫雲), a research fellow at the military-affiliated Institute for National Defense and Security Research.

"The transit was more of a test sail rather than a political signal," Su said.

The Type 002 is China's first domestically-built aircraft carrier after commissioning the Liaoning, a refitted Russian aircraft carrier, in 2012. It performed its 9th sea trial last week in the Bohai area, according to Chinese media.