Schumacher
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Do Japan's F-15J have ground attack capability ? How abt F-2s ?
Could Japan attack.
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Schumacher said:
I don't think that's the issue, so much. I think it's more to do with the equipment/armament Japan has to actually inflict damage.
The North Koreans possess hundreds of Scuds and Nodongs along with a vast chemical weapons stockpile (I don't think they have their missiles armed though). However, the attack can lead to a regional war quite quickly. The North and South both have a deep hatred of the Japanese as does China....not saying alliances are going to be formed, but an attack against North Korea by any country will be no doubt an invitation to war.
crazyinsane105 said:
I disagree. I don't think that South Korea will join the North, or take military action against Japan. Especially because the US will do all it can to keep them from fighting. I highly doubt that South Korea will risk its economic prosperity to even old WWII scores.
Re: Could Japan attack
A Japanese preemptive strike on NK even with US permission and support would be a military, economic and politic miscalulation. It may not be a direct invitation to war like some like to believe useless it an invasion style atttack like Iraq however it would create an enormous amount of tension. As many asain country may seem to lessen it hatred toward Japan and their government have taken a more contented position toward Japan as they try to get closer to US with the exception of China and SK. Nevertheless I can assure you that Japanese WW2 aggression still hit deeply within many asian regardless of older or younger generation especailly in family which had family member (including these who dead) who suffering during that period of time as these story would pass on for generation .
Some would argue that Japan would congratulated by most states but Japanese Premptive would likely remind asian mistrust and hatred toward Japan. Dispite most asian state prefer a nuclear free NK but they worry more about a aggresive Japan more then a nuclear arm NK, therefore the following scenario is possible;
1) Spark an arm race within asian as they fear of future Japanese aggression.
2) Create an unsustainable amount of Political tension as the Japanese strike would remind asian hatred toward Japan and you would see demonstration like the one you see in China last year all over asian, but at time 100 the magnitude.
3) Bring in a large amount of aid to NK from Asian country as they attemp to content NK and stop it from going nuts.
4) Russian and China with possible support from certain asian countries would surely try to bring this case to the UNSC as they would argue that Japanese didn't abid by it WW2 Peace treaty and Japanese chance of joining the UNSC would be totally demolish.
5) It would damage the asian economic due to politically unstable as it has direct effect.
In the worst situation that SK and China take some kinda miltiary it would be unlikely that they would side with NK neverthless it would be some kinda restrain operation toward Japanese or an island dispute.
A Japanese preemptive strike on NK even with US permission and support would be a military, economic and politic miscalulation. It may not be a direct invitation to war like some like to believe useless it an invasion style atttack like Iraq however it would create an enormous amount of tension. As many asain country may seem to lessen it hatred toward Japan and their government have taken a more contented position toward Japan as they try to get closer to US with the exception of China and SK. Nevertheless I can assure you that Japanese WW2 aggression still hit deeply within many asian regardless of older or younger generation especailly in family which had family member (including these who dead) who suffering during that period of time as these story would pass on for generation .
Some would argue that Japan would congratulated by most states but Japanese Premptive would likely remind asian mistrust and hatred toward Japan. Dispite most asian state prefer a nuclear free NK but they worry more about a aggresive Japan more then a nuclear arm NK, therefore the following scenario is possible;
1) Spark an arm race within asian as they fear of future Japanese aggression.
2) Create an unsustainable amount of Political tension as the Japanese strike would remind asian hatred toward Japan and you would see demonstration like the one you see in China last year all over asian, but at time 100 the magnitude.
3) Bring in a large amount of aid to NK from Asian country as they attemp to content NK and stop it from going nuts.
4) Russian and China with possible support from certain asian countries would surely try to bring this case to the UNSC as they would argue that Japanese didn't abid by it WW2 Peace treaty and Japanese chance of joining the UNSC would be totally demolish.
5) It would damage the asian economic due to politically unstable as it has direct effect.
In the worst situation that SK and China take some kinda miltiary it would be unlikely that they would side with NK neverthless it would be some kinda restrain operation toward Japanese or an island dispute.
FreeAsia2000
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Re: Could Japan attack
I agree.
The whole idea of Japan attacking North Korea is so much bluster, nobody in East Asia has forgotten 50 years of Japanese atrocities, WWII started a lot earlier for most Asians. After an invasion then what ? occupation by American troops ? Japanese troops ? How are you going to get rid of the regime ?
None of those options are worth considering
Nethappy said:
I agree.
The whole idea of Japan attacking North Korea is so much bluster, nobody in East Asia has forgotten 50 years of Japanese atrocities, WWII started a lot earlier for most Asians. After an invasion then what ? occupation by American troops ? Japanese troops ? How are you going to get rid of the regime ?
None of those options are worth considering
DPRKPTboat
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Japan would almost certainly be condemned by the U.N. security council, and possibly even the U.S., since they are not interested in military action at this point. When Israel bombed Osirak in 1981, they were condemned by the U.S. then, so I'm pretty sure Japan would be condemned as well if they attacked North Korea. All the region would be against Japan.
But if Japan was to remain calm and North Korea would constantly be firing missiles and testing nukes, then all of the region would be united against the DPRK, including China and Japan. All Japan has to do is sit back and wait while Kim Jong-Il goes crazy with his nukes.
But if Japan was to remain calm and North Korea would constantly be firing missiles and testing nukes, then all of the region would be united against the DPRK, including China and Japan. All Japan has to do is sit back and wait while Kim Jong-Il goes crazy with his nukes.
FreeAsia2000
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Russia is holding out against the US on this issue simply because it can. The Russian's overall strategic under Putin is to return to superpower status. They want to show the Americans that they will not bow down to their wishes, even if it is not a matter that is terribly important to Russia. Russians simply want to show the Americans and the world that they are a volitale force and that they cannot be taken for granted. Kind of immature, if you ask me.:nana:
I think that an attack by Japan on North Korea would make Asian nations, especially China, feel that their militaries are inadequate. That would not be good. If China expands its military, Taiwan wil reply, and China will reply to that, causing the US and Japan to both grow anxious and possibly increase military spending.
I think that an attack by Japan on North Korea would make Asian nations, especially China, feel that their militaries are inadequate. That would not be good. If China expands its military, Taiwan wil reply, and China will reply to that, causing the US and Japan to both grow anxious and possibly increase military spending.
Finn McCool you are kinda right, but there is more to it.
I can't state my point without going into politic, so hope i dun get in to trouble with mod.
There is no doubt that Russian's overall strategic under Putin is to return to superpower status. Nevertheless there is more to it, traditionally NK fall within Russia and China sphere of influence therefore both national doesn't wants the American to take the lend in dealing with any problem within it sphere of influence. More or less they want to do it there way.
Anyway there ae reason why the Chinese, Russian and SK want America or Japnese strike would create some serious problem for these country, these are few:
1) mass refugees
2) NK going mad with missles strike
3) With China and Russian having US in there back yard in the case of a us strike. There is more of a likelyhood that the US would attack the NK after an UNSC resolution if the NK didn't comply with what their wants as it would back up there course. i can pretty much insure the Nk wouldn't care what the US want them to do.
I can't state my point without going into politic, so hope i dun get in to trouble with mod.
There is no doubt that Russian's overall strategic under Putin is to return to superpower status. Nevertheless there is more to it, traditionally NK fall within Russia and China sphere of influence therefore both national doesn't wants the American to take the lend in dealing with any problem within it sphere of influence. More or less they want to do it there way.
Anyway there ae reason why the Chinese, Russian and SK want America or Japnese strike would create some serious problem for these country, these are few:
1) mass refugees
2) NK going mad with missles strike
3) With China and Russian having US in there back yard in the case of a us strike. There is more of a likelyhood that the US would attack the NK after an UNSC resolution if the NK didn't comply with what their wants as it would back up there course. i can pretty much insure the Nk wouldn't care what the US want them to do.