PiSigma
"the engineer"
Or it could be in Wuhan already in October but less transmittable. And all those athletes gone there and caught it.
Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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This is about the most childish thing I have heard for a long time. Trump's tour of Ford plant in Michigan.
I think no amount of mental gymnasts can justify his actions. No foot-in-mouth excuse, Prince Phillips style can be use to defend this. His refusal to wear a mask is predetermined. Suggesting discussions have taken place. It has been through his grey matter, and his refusal it's in pure contempt for the rule of law. Could you imagine the lawlessness if my students decided to obey which laws they like and ignore the ones they don't!
Michigan State Attorney General Dana Nessel sent a message to President Donald Trump asking him to put on a face mask for his Ford tour Thursday.
Now she has a different message.
"In Michigan, of course, now that is the law," Nessel said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Thursday. "A court just upheld that, upheld the governor's orders just hours ago, and even in Ford it is their own policy. The president is like a petulant child who refuses to follow the rules. I have to say, this is no joke."
When asked by Blitzer whether he would be welcomed back in Michigan in the future, Nessel said on her behalf, he is not.
Trump did not appear to consistently wear a face mask during his tour of Ford Motor Co. plant in Ypsilanti Thursday, despite being urged to wear one.
Asked by a reporter why he was not wearing a mask, Trump said he had one on in another area of the plant "where they preferred it" during the tour, but took it off before coming before reporters, the pool report said.
“I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it,” Trump said.
Under Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's executive order, face masks are mandatory in public enclosed spaces. Ford policy also requires the use of masks, but previously said it was Trump and the White House's whether or not he wore one.
Nessel, the state's chief law enforcement official, sent a letter to the president acknowledging the tour violates Whitmer's rule against nonessential tours of manufacturing facilities. In the letter, Nessel asked the president to wear the face covering during the tour.
"He is a ridiculous person and I am ashamed to have him be President of the United States of America and I hope that the voters of Michigan will remember this when November comes," Nessel said on CNN. "That he didn't care about their safety, he didn't care about their welfare, he didn't respect them enough just to engage in the very simple task, the painless task, the easy task, of wearing a mask when he was provided one."
I think no amount of mental gymnasts can justify his actions. No foot-in-mouth excuse, Prince Phillips style can be use to defend this. His refusal to wear a mask is predetermined. Suggesting discussions have taken place. It has been through his grey matter, and his refusal it's in pure contempt for the rule of law. Could you imagine the lawlessness if my students decided to obey which laws they like and ignore the ones they don't!
Michigan State Attorney General Dana Nessel sent a message to President Donald Trump asking him to put on a face mask for his Ford tour Thursday.
Now she has a different message.
"In Michigan, of course, now that is the law," Nessel said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Thursday. "A court just upheld that, upheld the governor's orders just hours ago, and even in Ford it is their own policy. The president is like a petulant child who refuses to follow the rules. I have to say, this is no joke."
When asked by Blitzer whether he would be welcomed back in Michigan in the future, Nessel said on her behalf, he is not.
Trump did not appear to consistently wear a face mask during his tour of Ford Motor Co. plant in Ypsilanti Thursday, despite being urged to wear one.
Asked by a reporter why he was not wearing a mask, Trump said he had one on in another area of the plant "where they preferred it" during the tour, but took it off before coming before reporters, the pool report said.
“I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it,” Trump said.
Under Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's executive order, face masks are mandatory in public enclosed spaces. Ford policy also requires the use of masks, but previously said it was Trump and the White House's whether or not he wore one.
Nessel, the state's chief law enforcement official, sent a letter to the president acknowledging the tour violates Whitmer's rule against nonessential tours of manufacturing facilities. In the letter, Nessel asked the president to wear the face covering during the tour.
"He is a ridiculous person and I am ashamed to have him be President of the United States of America and I hope that the voters of Michigan will remember this when November comes," Nessel said on CNN. "That he didn't care about their safety, he didn't care about their welfare, he didn't respect them enough just to engage in the very simple task, the painless task, the easy task, of wearing a mask when he was provided one."
Quickie
Colonel
The outbreak in Wuhan is caused by the Variant B type of the virus. The Variant B can't be the origin of the outbreak since it's the daughter of Variant A which has to exist first in some earlier place and time period.
If the U.S. has nothing to hide, it should join in the investigation and provide all information freely and let the investigators come into the country.
The vaccine Ad5-nCoV referenced in the news article is created by Chinese vaccine maker CanSino Biologics. The Lancet paper reports on the results from Phase I trial. Ad5-nCoV is currently in Phase 2 trial.
China gets 'promising' early results from COVID-19 vaccine trial
China gets 'promising' early results from COVID-19 vaccine trial
- In a paper in Friday, Chinese researchers revealed that their candidate vaccine has so far been tested in 108 healthy adults ages 18 to 60 in Wuhan, China, where the pandemic began.
- One-third of the participants received a low dose, one-third a medium dose and one-third a high dose of the candidate vaccine, referred to as Ad5-nCoV. None of the participants reported serious reactions to the vaccine, though some did suffer pain at the injection site, fever, fatigue, headache and muscle pain.
- Within two weeks of getting the vaccine, the immune systems of people receiving all three doses showed some level of response, with most developing a type of antibody that can attach to the virus, though not necessarily destroy it. Some also developed so-called neutralizing antibodies, which can kill the virus.
- The key outstanding question is whether this vaccine or other similar ones can generate enough of these neutralizing antibodies to protect people against the virus, said Peter Jay Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston.
- One challenge with this Ad5-nCoV vaccine, Walker said, is that it uses adenovirus 5 to deliver its payload — a cold virus that roughly half the population has been exposed to before. In those people, the immune system will clear out the cold virus before it can deliver its payload, and therefore the vaccine won’t work as well or at all.
coolieno99
Junior Member
Yeah, I could be wrong hypothesizing of U.S. obtaining corona viruses from bats that are found in caves located in Yunnan province ,China. Because there are many other places in the world that have bats harboring coronaviruses, like Georgia (the country next to Ukraine), Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey and Jordan. China isn't the only country that has coronavirus bats.
Besides, the U.S. also set up bio-labs in many countries to collect and study bats, and Wuhan Virology Lab is not the only one that collect and study coronavirus bats.
The following excerpt is taken from
" ... The Lugar Center, a $161 million Pentagon-funded biolaboratory in Georgia’s capital Tbilisi, discovered coronaviruses in bats with presumably pandemic potential as early as 2014, documents have revealed.
Furthermore, in 2017 the Pentagon launched a $6.5 million program in cooperation with the Lugar Center involving genetic studies on coronaviruses in 5,000 bats collected in Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey and Jordan.
Coincidentally, the same Pentagon contractor tasked with the US DoD bat-research program – Eco Health Alliance, USA, also collected bats and isolated coronaviruses along with Chinese scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Eco Health Alliance received a $3.7 million grant from the US National Institute of Health (NIH) to collect and study coronaviruses in bats in China from 2014 to 2019. ... The Lugar Center sparked controversy about possible dual-use research in 2018 when leaked documents revealed that US diplomats in Georgia were involved in trafficking of frozen human blood and pathogens for a secret military program.
Documents reveal that the Lugar Center also studied coronaviruses in bats.
In 2012 the US Center for Disease Control (CDC) collected and sampled 236 bats for research in Georgia in cooperation with the Lugar Center. The project was funded by the US DoD Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA). Part of the samples were shipped to CDC (Atlanta), for screening for multiple pathogens, another part was stored at the Lugar Center for further studies. ... "
Besides, the U.S. also set up bio-labs in many countries to collect and study bats, and Wuhan Virology Lab is not the only one that collect and study coronavirus bats.
The following excerpt is taken from
" ... The Lugar Center, a $161 million Pentagon-funded biolaboratory in Georgia’s capital Tbilisi, discovered coronaviruses in bats with presumably pandemic potential as early as 2014, documents have revealed.
Furthermore, in 2017 the Pentagon launched a $6.5 million program in cooperation with the Lugar Center involving genetic studies on coronaviruses in 5,000 bats collected in Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey and Jordan.
Coincidentally, the same Pentagon contractor tasked with the US DoD bat-research program – Eco Health Alliance, USA, also collected bats and isolated coronaviruses along with Chinese scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Eco Health Alliance received a $3.7 million grant from the US National Institute of Health (NIH) to collect and study coronaviruses in bats in China from 2014 to 2019. ... The Lugar Center sparked controversy about possible dual-use research in 2018 when leaked documents revealed that US diplomats in Georgia were involved in trafficking of frozen human blood and pathogens for a secret military program.
Documents reveal that the Lugar Center also studied coronaviruses in bats.
In 2012 the US Center for Disease Control (CDC) collected and sampled 236 bats for research in Georgia in cooperation with the Lugar Center. The project was funded by the US DoD Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA). Part of the samples were shipped to CDC (Atlanta), for screening for multiple pathogens, another part was stored at the Lugar Center for further studies. ... "
supercat
Major
I see the psyop against China is quite successful in the U.S. This psyop against a particular nation, in this case China, is probably one of the most ruthless one in the U..S. history in peace time. Mistakes were made during China's initial response. But they were due to confusion, the so-called "fog of war". They were not deliberate cover-ups. I think the officialdom in the U.S. knows this point very well. But they choose to disregard the fact completely, and instead engaging in vicious attacks against China.
Situation in the U.S. on May 22:
Situation in China on May 22, excluding HK, Macau, and TW:
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