Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
I thought that the Tory MP was 'rude', but after reading the comments I realized that he was much more refined. The mood in the UK is pretty strong I guess.

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A Tory MP is a very right-wing politician and will always present things in a way that serves the conservative agenda. Basically, try to gather as much steam for anti-China/Huawei movement as they can out of whatever little or much they actually have. If 25 people out of 650 in parliament are strongly anti-Huawei, a Tory will say that high members of the British Government are planning on the course to take remove Huawei from British communications.

The article just says that Huawei is committed to keeping the UK connected and it was handing out masks. There was nothing there that a normal sane person could construe as politicizing or leveraging. I'm not in the UK and I would not know how level-headed they are there but if the majority of the population actually think that providing regular services and handing out masks without precondition is an evil act, then there's really nothing left to be done for or with the UK. If they agree with what this Tory said, then the pandemic put strain on their society and they buckled, losing rational thinking.
 
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dratsabknihcllik

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A Tory MP is a very right-wing politician and will always present things in a way that serves the conservative agenda. Basically, try to gather as much steam for anti-China/Huawei movement as they can out of whatever little or much they actually have. The article just says that Huawei is committed to keeping the UK connected and it was handing out masks. There was nothing there that a normal sane person could construe as politicizing or leveraging. I'm not in the UK and I would not know how level-headed they are there but if the majority of the population actually think that providing regular services and handing out masks without precondition is an evil act, then there's really nothing left to be done for or with the UK.
As far as I know currently the mood is pretty anti China/Chinese in the UK. The Tory elites are pro business and some of them (read the lobby of Boris Johnson)allowed Huawei to have some share in the network infrastructure. However, the rank and file Tories didn't like this deal much. Now they are demanding that Huawei be banned. At the end of the day it will be decided by the pm but judging by the renewed activity of the secret service on this and the mood(from long time friends and colleagues) I don't think Boris will take the risk. Nonetheless I don't know why on earth Huawei thought of writing that letter at this moment. They could have kept their silence. The UK is a major player and often leads other countries (aiib). If the UK scuttles the deal then it will be a major setback for Huawei.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
The Daily Mail isn’t nicknamed the Daily Fail for nothing. that should tell anyone all they need to know about their standards (or rather lack of it) and reputation.

They are extreme right wing, but are not even proper British conservatives because real British conservatives would at least put British interests first. The staff at the Daily Fail are all a bunch of wannabe Americans who would gladly sell out British internets to advance America’s.

Where America points, the Daily Fail unfailingly follows. As such it’s little wonder they are rabidly anti-China. They also love to laugh at how backwards India is whenever the Indians get uppity and doesn’t show their masters their proper due, before anyone gets too invested in defending their honour.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
As far as I know currently the mood is pretty anti China/Chinese in the UK. The Tory elites are pro business and some of them (read the lobby of Boris Johnson)allowed Huawei to have some share in the network infrastructure. However, the rank and file Tories didn't like this deal much. Now they are demanding that Huawei be banned. At the end of the day it will be decided by the pm but judging by the renewed activity of the secret service on this and the mood(from long time friends and colleagues) I don't think Boris will take the risk. Nonetheless I don't know why on earth Huawei thought of writing that letter at this moment. They could have kept their silence. The UK is a major player and often leads other countries (aiib). If the UK scuttles the deal then it will be a major setback for Huawei.
Well, we'll see what happens as Johnson already said that there is no viable alternative to Huawei when it comes to truly modernizing British communications. Since Huawei has always operated at 90% or greater capacity even through the pandemic while Europe has all but shut down, that statement can only be more true now. At the end of the day, China and Huawei are big; the UK and their market are small. Huawei doesn't depend on this deal with the British for anything. If they want to be left back from the cutting edge of technology, then that's the fate that irrational people deserve.
 

dratsabknihcllik

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As far as I know currently the mood is pretty anti China/Chinese in the UK. The Tory elites are pro business and some of them (read the lobby of Boris Johnson)allowed Huawei to have some share in the network infrastructure. However, the rank and file Tories didn't like this deal much. Now they are demanding that Huawei be banned. At the end of the day it will be decided by the pm but judging by the renewed activity of the secret service on this and the mood(from long time friends and colleagues) I don't think Boris will take the risk.
The Daily Mail isn’t nicknamed the Daily Fail for nothing. that should tell anyone all they need to know about their standards (or rather lack of it) and reputation.

They are extreme right wing, but are not even proper British conservatives because real British conservatives would at least put British interests first. The staff at the Daily Fail are all a bunch of wannabe Americans who would gladly sell out British internets to advance America’s.

Where America points, the Daily Fail unfailingly follows. As such it’s little wonder they are rabidly anti-China. They also love to laugh at how backwards India is whenever the Indians get uppity and doesn’t show their masters their proper due, because anyone gets too invested in defending their honour.
I don't know when you last visited the UK but as far as I know a significant number of English(not brits as up in Scotland mail isn't that popular) actually read the mail.

Anyway, here's an opinion piece on the sun

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And the sophisticated telegraph on the now popular African discrimination

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If you read the graun you will probably get similar (or even harsher) articles but with a lefty touch.

I think only the independent is somewhat pro Chinese.

P.s. these are the recent ones. Older ones (when Britain wasn't suffering) used to be more condescending.

Finally, thanks for the concern for Indians. We are happy that Indian origin people are actually in the high places in Britain. We were happy when the Brits routed that Indian hating Corbyn and subsequently chose more and more Indian origin people to be in high profile political positions (latest being the British finance minister). :)
 
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while clicking at the link (through some Czech server) I didn't know the source, thought it'd be a blog, but it's, oops, The Guardian:
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and I offer my rant from another thread Today at 2:28 PM
as I repeatedly said all over this forum, if so called analysts in the Pentagon; Langley, VA; Fort Mead, MD had read newspapers this year, they would've noticed the pandemic coming at them

once the wave of deaths is over, there should a congressional hearing to determine what the CIA, NSA, etc. knew and did since the beginning of this year, well apparently they did nothing, so it'd be to ask their directors why

EDIT another thing is they're political appointees and it's an election year, so I better stop, but let's wait and see once there's a next pandemic if multiple-billion-budget institutions will miss that one, too
now I see I forgot "be" in all this excitement
 
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ZeEa5KPul

Colonel
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'If we are going to have open trade and open borders the Chinese need to be honest about pandemics in their own country and what happens in their own country.'
How ironic. If I have my history right these people fought wars with China over open trade. What's their problem with open trade now?:)
Where America points, the Daily Fail unfailingly follows. As such it’s little wonder they are rabidly anti-China. They also love to laugh at how backwards India is whenever the Indians get uppity and doesn’t show their masters their proper due, before anyone gets too invested in defending their honour.
I find it mystifying that an Indian would be so interested in all this. The next generation of global telecommunications and its place in the struggle between superpowers is something India doesn't and will never have to concern itself with.
 

KIENCHIN

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Kienchin, I read somewhere that HEPA filter can only filter out bacteria but not virus which is smaller than bacteria. Am I correct ?
Yes, you are right. HEPA filters are not able to block out virus but don’t be too concern. Air handling units fitted with HEPA are always in a plantroom away from human traffic and those meant for air supply to hospital operating rooms and other medical applications are restricted area and disinfected regularly.
Commercial HEPA filters found for home application is only good for fust and pollen as mention equipment designed with fitted HEPA filters are expensive.
On a side note, someone mention we can do away with cooling and just control humidity,, sorry to say we can’t have one without the other.
 
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