Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

superdog

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On the other hand, China is a poorer country, so there isn't the social safety net nor individual savings to sustain continual lockdowns.

Plus the legitimacy of the Chinese government is directly tied to its management of the Chinese economy.
In the US and Europe, the leaders just go into retirement after losing an election, but the system remains.

So China may be more risk-taking
At the current infection rate China do not require a vaccine to resume most of their work, so unless they screw up causing a massive second wave, they have no reason to go for the riskier route.
 

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In a single or double blind experiment the subject wouldn't know if they get a placebo or a vaccine, but they do know there is a chance they did not get the vaccine.

The average gung-ho Joe in the street would think that he is really getting the vaccine. Those who knows that in such trials there is usually placebo involved may not be that enthusiastic to join. So, the danger of risky behavior of volunteers (in the placebo group) still stands.
 

AndrewS

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At the current infection rate China do not require a vaccine to resume most of their work, so unless they screw up causing a massive second wave, they have no reason to go for the riskier route.

I reckon we should see a low level of infections, as the Spring weather has arrived and summer will be here soon.
So temperatures of 30C-40C will mean coronaviruses *die* pretty quickly.

But we don't know if the current situation is sustainable.

My view is that there likely will be another wave of infections, when the temperature drops in the Autumn and Winter.
 
in the most recent anti-China piece (
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) there's a claim
The efforts include ad purchases on
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Inc. promoting the English-language arms of Chinese state-media outlets, as well as posts there and on
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Inc.’s platform that in some cases disparage U.S. efforts to fight the global pandemic, the researchers say.
which (even if it were true) I found strange, because one may simply look at "U.S. efforts to fight the global pandemic" for instance to check the number of dead;

but something occurred to me: in a remarkable piece
China Is the Real Sick Man of Asia
Feb. 3, 2020 6:47 pm ET
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to swap "China" with "US", and it becomes ominous (if that's the right word here), for instance (the 3rd paragraph)

US initial response to the crisis was less than impressive. The New York (*) government was secretive and self-serving; national authorities responded vigorously but, it currently appears, ineffectively. US cities and factories are shutting down; the virus continues to spread.
etc. (guess it'd be too much to do it in the following sentence, too)

(*) originally "Wuhan"
and here's the NYT Updated April 9, 2020
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Skye_ZTZ_113

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in the most recent anti-China piece (
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) there's a claim

which (even if it were true) I found strange, because one may simply look at "U.S. efforts to fight the global pandemic" for instance to check the number of dead;

but something occurred to me: in a remarkable piece
China Is the Real Sick Man of Asia
Feb. 3, 2020 6:47 pm ET
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to swap "China" with "US", and it becomes ominous (if that's the right word here), for instance (the 3rd paragraph)

US initial response to the crisis was less than impressive. The New York (*) government was secretive and self-serving; national authorities responded vigorously but, it currently appears, ineffectively. US cities and factories are shutting down; the virus continues to spread.
etc. (guess it'd be too much to do it in the following sentence, too)

(*) originally "Wuhan"
and here's the NYT Updated April 9, 2020
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It was a classic projection piece, think no more of it. What they knew was coming at home, they were projecting onto China.
 

AndrewS

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This can be observed very well in Ecuador ...

Ecuador is not representative of China.

36% of the Ecuador population lives in slums.
65% of the Guayaquil population (where bodies are being left in the streets) lives in slums.

If people are living so closely together without masks or the ability to wash and clean their hands - any infectious disease is going to spread like wildfire.

But I would say that Ecuador is a warning of what could happen in India.
 
It was a classic projection piece, think no more of it. What they knew was coming at home, they were projecting onto China.
didn't think of kinda Freudian interpretation here

personally I liked most the 5th paragraph (with the benefit of the hindsight):
Events like the coronavirus epidemic, and its predecessors—such as SARS, Ebola and MERS—test our systems and force us to think about the unthinkable. If there were a disease as deadly as Ebola and as fast-spreading as coronavirus, how should the U.S. respond? What national and international systems need to be in place to minimize the chance of catastrophe on this scale?
 
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