Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[manqiangrexue]

? It’s a vaccine, they just check for antibodies after. No one is going to get infected with actual covid.

Really? We've already seen people volunteering to get infected for vaccine trials and you can't say you've succeeded until your patients resist challenge from COVID-19. Stopping just because they developed antibodies is not a complete trial. The final question that must be answered is whether the antibodies developed are able to confer resistance.

 

[localizer]

Really? We've already seen people volunteering to get infected for vaccine trials and you can't say you've succeeded until your patients resist challenge from COVID-19. Stopping just because they developed antibodies is not a complete trial. The final question that must be answered is whether the antibodies developed are able to confer resistance.

This is phase 2 which assesses immune response and safety in humans.

I think after they can try on Westerners that are at risk of getting it.

Maybe on healthcare workers?

 

[superdog]

Really? We've already seen people volunteering to get infected for vaccine trials and you can't say you've succeeded until your patients resist challenge from COVID-19. Stopping just because they developed antibodies is not a complete trial. The final question that must be answered is whether the antibodies developed are able to confer resistance.

I'm not aware that anybody volunteered to get infected by COVID-19. Where did you get this info?

 

[manqiangrexue]

This is phase 2 which assesses immune response and safety in humans.

I think after they can try on Westerners that are at risk of getting it.

Maybe on healthcare workers?

Oh yeah, I didn't see it's phase 2. Then placebo's still retarded. Basically inject someone with saline to see if he dies or develops COVID-19 antibodies. Well, if he does, he got it from outside exposure, not from the saline.

I'm not aware that anybody volunteered to get infected by COVID-19. Where did you get this info?

Someone posted it on this forum, with pictures. Won't be easy to dig that up...

 

[localizer]

Oh yeah, I didn't see it's phase 2. Then placebo's still retarded. Basically inject someone with saline to see if he dies or develops COVID-19 antibodies. Well, if he does, he got it from outside exposure, not from the saline.

Someone posted it on this forum, with pictures. Won't be easy to dig that up...

Risk of getting COVID naturally is slim to none now in China.

Best people to test on after phase 2 would be frontline workers in hot spots I think.

 

[Intrepid]

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as of now, it appears to work: 'manageable' mortality rate

Sweden now has 86 victims per 1 million inhabitants and is at the beginning of the spread. That is a very bad value for a wealthy state with a good health system.

See list of the 10 major countries hit hard.

 

[Jura The idiot]

Sweden now has 86 victims per 1 million inhabitants and is at the beginning of the spread. That is a very bad value for a wealthy state with a good health system.

See list of the 10 major countries hit hard.

how do you know they're at your "beginning of the spread"?

 

[Jura The idiot]

by the way

... list of the 10 major countries hit hard.

it took me about four minutes to find you #2 you hadn't included:

(26/76695)*1e6 =339 rounded

do you recognize it?

 

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When I was living and working in Guangzhou in early 90s, I was introduced to eating the 'Fragrant meat'. Of all the meat I eaten from lamp, waygu beef to black Spanish pig and mangalica pork, the most tender delicious meat I have had was Hsiang rou or 'Fragrant meat' aka dog meat.

An important part dish was the skin.
And so I was told shar pei was bred for the pot with its multifold of skin.
And now becoming a star pet dog.
So if you want to talk of a dog bred for the pot, it was the shar pei


For all it is worth.

First time I've heard of the Sharpei was bred for the pot. In ancient times, it was bred for fighting. The skin-folds allow it to turn around during a fight.

 

[Intrepid]

how do you know they're at your "beginning of the spread"?

Because the curve is just rising, because they haven't tested much yet (approx. 5000 tests per 1 million inhabitants) and because the virus has been able to spread unnoticed in recent weeks due to a lack of social distancing.

Just like in the USA, UK, and several other countries that wanted to go their own way.