Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[HybridHypothesis]

Would need an age-stratified breakdown on deaths in the vaccinated vs. unvaccinated group to draw a definitive conclusion. Age can be a potential confounding variable related to death. That's why no scientists draws conclusions based on univariate analysis without adjusting for confounders. Statistics 101.

the "scientists" have already laid the data out for you in that thread if you are so inclined. But the FACTS are that we are getting breakthrough infections in populations that are SUPPOSE to be immune to this,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407613965245587456

and that there has been extreme censorship on vaccine victims preventing them from speaking out.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407710504412459012

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408486846733164544

HOW MANY DEATHS IS THE WEST COVERING UP?

 

[quantumlight]

the "scientists" have already laid the data out for you in that thread if you are so inclined. But the FACTS are that we are getting breakthrough infections in populations that are SUPPOSE to be immune to this,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407613965245587456

and that there has been extreme censorship on vaccine victims preventing them from speaking out.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407710504412459012

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408486846733164544

HOW MANY DEATHS IS THE WEST COVERING UP?

the Great Culling ....

 

[Phead128]

the "scientists" have already laid the data out for you in that thread if you are so inclined. But the FACTS are that we are getting breakthrough infections in populations that are SUPPOSE to be immune to this,

I read through the thread, no age-stratified rates. This is basic epidemiology and biostatistics 101 (I have a masters in public health), you have to adjust for age in any correlation or causation study.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407613965245587456

and that there has been extreme censorship on vaccine victims preventing them from speaking out.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408486846733164544

HOW MANY DEATHS IS THE WEST COVERING UP?

In the photo, it literally says: "Of 5,888 deaths reported, .... 39% occurred in people who became ill within 48 hours of vaccination"

So they died of COVID before the vaccine was able to take effect. (Full vaccination is two weeks post-second dose). These people got sick within 48 hours of first shot. These people didn't die directly from the vaccine, but from COVID.

So the remaining 61% (n=3,591) is vaccine-related deaths out of 155,000,000 vaccinated people is only 0.00231%. That's neglible compared to COVID case fatality rate of 1.8%. In fact, COVID is almost 800X more deadly than the COVID vaccine itself.

 

[HybridHypothesis]

In the photo, it literally says: "Of 5,888 deaths reported, .... 39% occurred in people who became ill within 48 hours of vaccination"

So they died of COVID before the vaccine was able to take effect. (Full vaccination is two weeks post-second dose). These people got sick within 48 hours of first shot.

These people didn't die directly from the vaccine, but from COVID.

So, 39% of people died within TWO DAYS of getting injected?

How does that prove that it was actually corona that was killing them?

Seems to me that these vaccine has so many adverse side effects that it can kill within a mere 48 hours!

 

[Phead128]

So, 39% of people died within TWO DAYS of getting injected?

How does that prove that it was actually corona that was killing them?

Seems to me that these vaccine has so many adverse side effects that it can kill within a mere 48 hours!

from your Twitter photo:

It clearly says among 5,888 vaccine-related deaths, 39% occurred in patients who became sick with COVID within 48 hours post-vaccination. It doesn't say they DIED within 48 hours post-vaccination, it says they got COVID within 48 hours post-vaccination and died because of COVID, not because of the vaccine.

You know for an anti-vaxxer troll, your reading comprehension is abysmal. Oh by the way, I am doing my PhD in Pharmco-epidemiology, so please bring as much of your bullshit as you can so I can refute it.

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

Oh by the way, I am doing my PhD in Pharmco-epidemiology, so please bring as much of your bullshit as you can so I can refute it.

Hold up there. You think keyboard warriors care about your PhD?

 

[HybridHypothesis]

from your Twitter photo:View attachment 73880

It clearly says among 5,888 vaccine-related deaths, 39% occurred in patients who became sick with COVID within 48 hours post-vaccination. It doesn't say they DIED within 48 hours post-vaccination, it says they got COVID within 48 hours post-vaccination and died because of COVID, not because of the vaccine.

You know for an anti-vaxxer troll, your reading comprehension is abysmal. Oh by the way, I am doing my PhD in Pharmco-epidemiology, so please bring as much of your bullshit as you can so I can refute it.

How convenient to blame the horrific side effects of these vaccines on "corona" and NEVER consider the other possibility that it is actually the vaccine that is causing the adverse reactions! This is not science, but vaccine dogmatism.

Imagine thinking injecting an experimental drug that essentially tells ur cells to mass produce the spike protein, a novel antigen that causes massive inflammation and clotting, and thinking that it has no effect on ur immune system?



The number of adverse reactions caused by these injections would have caused any other drug to be canned during trials...
but all of a sudden these massive jumps in "unexplained" DEATHS in otherwise healthy teenagers and young adults are acceptable. 95% efficacy and all that BS.

 

[HybridHypothesis]

Imagine that, the SPIKE PROTEIN binds to these cells, which triggers the hypercoagulation cascade. Now you tell your cells to spit those spike proteins everywhere and voila, you got your hyperinflammatory reaction.

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[Phead128]

How convenient to blame the horrific side effects of these vaccines on "corona" and NEVER consider the other possibility that it is actually the vaccine that is causing the adverse reactions! This is not science, but vaccine dogmatism.

Death from side-effects from the vaccine itself is captured as part of the 61% of vaccine-related deaths (100-39=61%) The 61% (which includes 23% death within 48hr, 16% death within 24 hrs, and 22% death post 48 hours)

Reading comprehension is hard for anti-vaxxer, and simple math is apparently even harder.

Among the remaining 39% of deaths, when it says "ill", it specifically means disease caused by something other than the vaccine itself. Literally from disease such as COVID, not related to the vaccine itself.

From your Twitter photo:

Imagine thinking injecting an experimental drug that essentially tells ur cells to mass produce the spike protein, a novel antigen that causes massive inflammation and clotting, and thinking that it has no effect on ur immune system?

Nice strawman, but nobody said it has zero effects on your immune system. The question is why only 61% die directly from vaccine versus 39% die from COVID post-vaccination. Why do anti-vaxxers argue against a strawman?

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The number of adverse reactions caused by these injections would have caused any other drug to be canned during trials...
but all of a sudden these massive jumps in "unexplained" DEATHS in otherwise healthy teenagers and young adults are acceptable. 95% efficacy and all that BS.

It's pretty clear you are misinterpreting the data from CDC, either willfully ignorant or deliberately stubborn.

Hold up there. You think keyboard warriors care about your PhD?

On my way, about to graduate in 6 months. Not done yet...

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Imagine that, the SPIKE PROTEIN binds to these cells, which triggers the hypercoagulation cascade. Now you tell your cells to spit those spike proteins everywhere and voila, you got your hyperinflammatory reaction.

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Nobody disputes that vaccines affects your immune system. We are disputing whether vaccine-related deaths is clinically meaningful compared to the benefits of vaccination. Given that COVID is 800% more deadly than COVID vaccine itself, I think it speaks for itself.

 

[HybridHypothesis]

Death from side-effects from the vaccine itself is captured as part of the 61% of vaccine-related deaths (100-39=61%) The 61% (which includes 23% death within 48hr, 16% death within 24 hrs, and 22% death post 48 hours)

Reading comprehension is hard for anti-vaxxer, and simple math is apparently even harder.

Among the remaining 39% of deaths, when it says "ill", it specifically means disease caused by something other than the vaccine itself. Literally from disease such as COVID, not related to the vaccine itself.

From your Twitter photo:View attachment 73882



Nice strawman, but nobody said it has zero effects on your immune system. The question is why only 61% die directly from vaccine versus 39% die from COVID post-vaccination. Why do anti-vaxxers argue against a strawman?



It's pretty clear you are misinterpreting the data from CDC, either willfully ignorant or deliberately stubborn.


On my way, about to graduate in 6 months. Not done yet...


Nobody disputes that vaccines affects your immune system. We are disputing whether vaccine-related deaths is clinically meaningful compared to the benefits of vaccination. Given that COVID is 800% more deadly than COVID vaccine itself, I think it speaks for itself.

Wow, so 61% die directly from the vaccine according to you now? Why are vaccine advocates pushing for CHILDREN TO BE INJECTED with statistics like this?

But this dogmatic attitude does explain how the entire media works to silence mothers who's children died of vaccine related complications. If the scientific establishment is dominated by groupthink, then no wonder we are in a state of utter denial about the nature of these injections.

LOGICALLY THINKING, it makes total sense that telling your body to produce the instrument of its own destruction (spike protein -> hypercoagulation pathway) might cause some serious side effects. And given that the vaccine doesn't even protect against the new variants, there is no conceivable, rational reason to take it. Pfizer is pure poison at this stage.