Unlike the U.S. you guys did have stringent lockdowns, so what went wrong?We don't even have a post covid pathway to reconnect to the world and our vaccination database does not work properly.Just heard the funniest thing ever: Ontario is entering a new lockdown, but schools are going to remain open.
Canadian covid policies are a train wreck.
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solarz
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Lockdowns that kept schools open.
Our cases went down to as low as 100 a day in the summer, but shot straight up once school resumed.
The government is not willing to do what it takes to tackle the crisis.
One should argue that every country other than China is hiding something, something more than China could be hiding. After all, WHO has not gone to any other countries, but after looking around in China (limited or not) WHO at least had a better chance to reveal something. Arguing China is hiding something without evidence is not neutral at all. And that is the essence of supporting US.
The real neutral position is to reject singling out one country who reported the first discovery, to reject baseless accusations, to totally reject conspiracy theory. A true neutral WHO is to tour the world to investigate every country, a true neutral WHO is to investigate the FIRST country that reported the new mutation (the UK), a true neural WHO is to visit the US army lab precisely like they visited Wuhan lab. Anything less than that is not neutral and not scientific but political.
In this regard, I object the whole "WHO investigation" UNLESS it continue its work in other countries, starting with UK, why UK reported their new variant months after the first patient?
Unless there are multiple video recordings from different media sources of Tedros saying it, I would not take BBC as seriously more than a pig. Ever since the Lhasa riot BBC, CNN etc. have a credibility deficit to be paid for 100 years. Besides, I have already said that the WHO investigation itself is political pressed act, nothing scientific at all if it stops at this point. We will have to see next.
Generally speaking, folks in the West do not like to be tracked and trace. It is all to do with personal privacy. By the way which country came up with the idea of using the cell phone for track and trace?
Haha.
The thing is, again speaking for mostly EU and Canada, people are generally more tolerant of government intrusion. Since Apple/Google stressed anonymized/tokenized data, then the business operators don’t have access to the personal data. The government could explain this to people to increase trust. Even the government could theoretically do most of the tracing through tokens as long as the database is robust enough.
With respect to how Canada has been dealing with the pandemic, it’s obviously many times better than the US, and remains so. However, we can’t seem to actually get past the goal line, and end up with lockdowns on and off.
More like make believe lockdown. Part of the problem was and is that both the Federal and provincial governments don't want to impose and enact rules that have been shown to work in East Asian countries and most specifically, China. Because if they did they would readily admit that the big bad CCP was and is correct in terms of it's pandemic handling which is objectively FACTUAL.
The remedy involves hodgepodge or patchwork make believe lock down without addressing the need for sustained and adequate or robust contact tracing, massive testing, and proper observations and enforcements of the 14 day isolation period. For the reasons stated above: politics. The politicians in Canada and much of the so called western led or style Democracies tend to cater to the loud mouth fire breathing morons on social media, amplified by their ignorant and stupid mainstream media which basically legitimizes the retarded all in the name of "Free speech" and democracy. Which goes to show how rigid their political system has become, unadaptable, inflexible to the realities on the ground and unscientific with handling of the pandemic.
I feel terrible for the silent majority who are abiding and following the safety measures requested by their government but they are largely ignored because the government and other parties assumed that these people will vote for whichever party they are aligned with so the government in power and the opposition jockeys to get or clamor to obtain the attention of the same retarded people from both sides of the political spectrum: the loud mouth very vocal minority. Since these groups are the most passionate politically and the most active which hold sway and can influence the rest of the politically inept and malleable populace. That's the reasons why lockdowns are not working both in Canada, U.S. Europe, and the rest of western style Democracies. If you don't believe me, just check the Philippines, that country's political elites are nothing but two faced useless morons that did nothing but hamper Duterte's efforts in containing the pandemic. The usual politicians complains exactly mirrors their western a.k.a. American style of whining and finger pointing. I digress.
solarz
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Canadians are deluding themselves into believing our pandemic response is remotely satisfactory by using the US response as a comparison. Quite possibly the only country on Earth that has a worse response than the US is India.
They should close their google and smartphone account then.