COMAC C919

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
China should have used a indigenous engine

when will China conquer civilian air craft engines now that the military series is done ?
 

Deino

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China should have used a indigenous engine

when will China conquer civilian air craft engines now that the military series is done ?


But since there is not yet an indigenous Chinese engine ready, it would have been a failure already.
 

Just4Fun

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China should have used a indigenous engine

when will China conquer civilian air craft engines now that the military series is done ?

The C-919 is a commercial project. Do it in a commercially feasible way. Using components made by outside contractors means spreading the risk of possible failure to the contractors. This is a well-established business practice of risk-sharing.
 

Quickie

Colonel
"COMAC engineers miscalculated the forces that would be placed on the plane’s twin engines in flight - known in the industry as loads - and sent inaccurate data to the engine manufacturer, CFM International, four people familiar with the matter told Reuters. As a result, the engine and its housing may both have to be reinforced, the people said, most likely at COMAC’s expense – though another source denied any modification."

1) What type of "load" is being referred to? The forces exerted on the engine pylon or the wing?

2) Why would engine need to be reinforced in regard to load? Remember this is the third LEAP engine variant CFM International is making. Don't CFM know better if there is discrepancy since they have made LEAP-A and LEAP-B for Airbus and Boeing.

3) Wouldn't CFM International found the irregularity in data provided by COMAC immediately? CFM International has provided similar LEAP engines to Airbus and Boeing 737, their engineers would know immediately if COMAC's data is out of tune with that of Airbus and Boeing. Correction would have been done immediately, no?

4) with regard to the engine housing i.e. the cowling, is it a high-tech piece of component that is difficult to modify in short time?

5) If the problem is critical, why was the 6th prototype proceeded to have the engines fitted and flights taken? More so the 6th prototype rolled out and took flight on schedule that was announced years ago?

6) As I know, there is a verification stage to audit all data calculated to make sure they are accurate before accepting them for integration into the overall R & D data base.

Finally, please take a few minute do a google search on "Controversies in Reuters News Reporting".

1.) Probably yes.
2.) Likely related to the load-bearing structure of the engine external to the engine core.
4.) If it's the load-bearing structural part, it shouldn't be at all.
5.) Probably not critical then. It could be their decision to increase the load limits at the expense of increasing weight.
 
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lcloo

Captain
1.) Probably yes.
2.) Likely related to the load-bearing structure of the engine external to the engine core.
4.) If it's the load-bearing structural part, it shouldn't be at all.
5.) Probably not critical then. It could be their decision to increase the load limits at the expense of increasing weight.
Thank you. So CFM could easily modify the load bearing structure of the LEAP-C engine in reasonably short time as they have no problems in load bearing structures of engines in LEAP-A (Airbus) and LEAP-B (Boeing 737).

In short, no a big problem that will cause undue delay in flight tests.
 

foxmulder_ms

Junior Member
That's your thought not mine.
Unlike Xinhua which is mostly propaganda for CCP, Reuters is purely non-biased to any and all state or organizations. They report pure news and that is why they retain the title of most prestigious.

That is not pure news. it is pure speculation. lol. For simple reporting Xinhua is better. Most of the news on Xinhua has zero opinion. On the other hand this laughable article is nothing but speculation and "opinion".
 

SamuraiBlue

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That is not pure news. it is pure speculation. lol. For simple reporting Xinhua is better. Most of the news on Xinhua has zero opinion. On the other hand this laughable article is nothing but speculation and "opinion".
That's called propaganda, copy and pasting without any analysis of what the government had announced.
 

kickars

Junior Member
That's called propaganda, copy and pasting without any analysis of what the government had announced.
And by insisting a newspaper or channel’s view isn’t propaganda?

Can’t you see the problem here. By your logic everything coming out of anyone’s mouth is propaganda. It’s ok for some to prefer the words coming out of BBC, others to prefer CNN, but somehow it isn’t ok to simply prefer the raw data from the source when the source is the government? What kind of logic is that? Isn’t this kind of thinking by itself a way of propaganda people to believe you are right?

Hey, the bottom line is that we have to STOP accusing people under the influence of some sort of propaganda. Because every single human being on earth has been brain washed one way or another. No one has the moral high ground on this kind of issue.
 

sinophilia

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And by insisting a newspaper or channel’s view isn’t propaganda?

Can’t you see the problem here. By your logic everything coming out of anyone’s mouth is propaganda. It’s ok for some to prefer the words coming out of BBC, others to prefer CNN, but somehow it isn’t ok to simply prefer the raw data from the source when the source is the government? What kind of logic is that? Isn’t this kind of thinking by itself a way of propaganda people to believe you are right?

Hey, the bottom line is that we have to STOP accusing people under the influence of some sort of propaganda. Because every single human being on earth has been brain washed one way or another. No one has the moral high ground on this kind of issue.

Very true. Which is why I read papers like Rodong Sinmun and Joson Imingun and watch KCNA. After all, we are all equally brainwashed and reading from a governmental source is usually just as valid as a corporate source.

Did you know that North Korea recently found a unicorn layer?
 
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