COMAC C919

Hendrik_2000 said:

He didn't say that he said basically it screwing job all China did was to screw component and that is not big deal
The only country that can do complete design is western country
US, Europe . If that is not tinge with racism I don't know what

If that is so easy why would Japan or any other country do it EXPLAIN IT!

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You don't know what you're talking about, in the context of my reply on his message. You kneejerked and made some ugly accusations on racism and prejudice. You were way off base and it's contemptible you resorted to race-baiting without evidence. Pathetic.

Most of the discussion seems to be around COMSC's supply chain, not COMAC it'self

Blackstone said:

You don't know what you're talking about, in the context of my reply on his message. You kneejerked and made some ugly accusations on racism and prejudice. You were way off base and it's contemptible you resorted to race-baiting without evidence. Pathetic.

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You are the one that is pathetic not me I have evidence just see his post you have nothing to argue otherwise so you attack me as race baiting

Hendrik_2000 said:

HE IS NOT CHINESE HE IS PAKISTANI I GUESS.

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I don't fully agree with Sinosoldier's comment either but this just came out of nowhere. If anything, Pakistanis have a more optimistic view of Chinese endeavours than Chinese themselves.

Sure enough, this " China sucks" peanut gallery chimes in on cue every time China flies , floats, lofts, builds or does something for the first time.

Balance my foot!

Hendrik_2000 said:

You are the one that is pathetic not me I have evidence just see his post you have nothing to argue otherwise so you attack me as race baiting

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Oh you have evidence Sinosoldier is a racist in context of the C-919 posts, do you? Link it and let's see your so-called evidence.

jobjed said:

I don't fully agree with Sinosoldier's comment either but this just came out of nowhere. If anything, Pakistanis have a more optimistic view of Chinese endeavours than Chinese themselves.

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Well is it crime guessing forummer nationality?. I din't say anything negative or disrespectful Because I assume No chinese will make condescending comment on China achievement.
Ok I am wrong maybe he is not Pakistani

Blackstone said:

Let's get to the real issue:
1) Sinosoldier said the C-919 was only a step in the right direction, and COMAC still has a way to go
2) Some people more credit for COMAC's achievements
3) Sinosoldier's message was then attacked not because it was factually wrong, but because they didn't like it

That's what all the shouting is about.

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His statement was factually wrong because he considered that "step" to be a small step, others here have made the case that it's a bigger step than he thinks.

Blackstone said:

Both sides have valid points? Oh really? Let's test your claim in context of my post vis-a-vis Sinosoldier's message:

Sinosoldier's point on the C-919 is basically it's a step in the right direction on meeting 95% local suppliers, but COMAC still has a ways to go. I endorsed his view. What's the other side of the argument?

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I have said twice, and this is my third time to say that "I was not involved in the original discussion vis-à-vis Sinosoldier and others."

If what you summarized Sinosoldier's point as he intended, I endorse that view too. And that view does not call a failure, but first step.

As I (once again) did not follow the lengthy chain, I do not know other's view, I will not comment on them.

My reply to your post was only concerning how and why you see the first step of a long project being a failure. That is a legitimate question, isn't it? If you have substances in calling that a failure, I appreciate that you share with the rest. If you claim that wording is only semantic, then I got your meaning and have no intension in chasing you for the choice.

Hendrik_2000 said:

I assume No chinese will make condescending comment on China achievement.

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Hahahaha oh you sweet summer child. There are plenty of Chinese who are diseased with an inferiority complex and refuse to believe their own people can match the great White men. Examples: democracy activists, Falun Gong practitioners, many Taiwanese and Hong Kongers etc.

Nonetheless, it's prudent to recognise that someone who understates Chinese accomplishments will more than likely not be Pakistani. It is literally more likely for a Chinese person to shit-talk China than a Pakistani. This is precisely why Pakistan is probably the only Chinese ally worth protecting; everyone else like Cambodia, DPRK, Bangladesh etc are only "allies" as long as there are obvious benefits to the relationship.