Chinese UCAV/CCA/flying wing drones (ISR, A2A, A2G) thread

[TheWanderWit]

WZ-9 is definitely in service. Have been flying over SCS and East China Sea.

The only reason I didn't mention those sightings was due to the fact that all WZ-9 sightings have been seen with its primer, rather than any official PLAAF colors. But I guess, yes. Not sure how many there are though.

 

[qwerty3173]

I'm honestly surprised that this drone isn't in service yet and mass production, given it was officially unveiled six years ago and had its first flight years prior. WZ-9 is another example. Two drones whose developments span back over a decade ago, and yet both aren't seemingly in any form of service or mass production (although GJ-11 may be in limited service with a test unit).

We've seen more images/videos of testing in the past few months, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. I find it funny how China seemingly moves far faster with the development of new aircraft than these two specific drones that have been in testing for years now. J20/A/S, J-35/A, J-15T/D, KJ-600, Y-20B, etc. are all examples. Really looking forward to the GJ-11, as it's likely to be the first stealth strike UCAV in service and mass production from any country, with a variety of roles for the PLAAF and PLAN.

Problem with such drones is that tactics associated with them are still in the infancy, and such as new tactics are developed through testing and researching, the drone needs constant changes especially in its software, so it takes a lot for it to be in service.

 

[Matrixdet]

this probably won't surprise others, but on the recent guancha video, yankee did say GJ-11 is still conducting flight testing. As such, it is unlikely to be part of the parade.

Perhaps they will use models for the military parade as they did in 19 years.

 

[lcloo]

The only reason I didn't mention those sightings was due to the fact that all WZ-9 sightings have been seen with its primer, rather than any official PLAAF colors. But I guess, yes. Not sure how many there are though.

Those black paints are not primer coating. They are flying dark and high like Blackbird SR-71.

 

[Nevermore]

Someone on the Chinese forum found patent information that may be related to China's sixth-generation aircraft's loyal wingman. It describes a tailless flying wing drone with a large angle of attack and supersonic high-speed maneuvering flight. The drone parameters provided in it are a take-off weight of 21 tons (more than the J-10) and a wing area of 62 square meters.
China's loyal wingman obviously looks much more radical and high-end than the small loyal wingman of the United States.

 

[BillRamengod]

Someone on the Chinese forum found patent information that may be related to China's sixth-generation aircraft's loyal wingman. It describes a tailless flying wing drone with a large angle of attack and supersonic high-speed maneuvering flight. The drone parameters provided in it are a take-off weight of 21 tons (more than the J-10) and a wing area of 62 square meters.
China's loyal wingman obviously looks much more radical and high-end than the small loyal wingman of the United States.
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Found it.
However, these three images actually belong to two different patents from the same research team:

• Figures 1 & 2:
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  - "A Method for Evaluating Directional Controllability of Tailless Aircraft Configurations"
• Figure 3:
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  .X - "An Angle-of-Attack Limitation Design Method for Stall Avoidance"

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Patent No. 202410079402.9 - "A Method for Evaluating Directional Controllability of Tailless Aircraft Configurations"

 

[BillRamengod]

Found it.
However, these three images actually belong to two different patents from the same research team:

• Figures 1 & 2:
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  - "A Method for Evaluating Directional Controllability of Tailless Aircraft Configurations"
• Figure 3:
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  .X - "An Angle-of-Attack Limitation Design Method for Stall Avoidance"

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Patent No. 202410079402.9 - "A Method for Evaluating Directional Controllability of Tailless Aircraft Configurations"
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Patent No. 202410079175.X - "An Angle-of-Attack Limitation Design Method for Stall Avoidance"

 

[SergeiKronov]

Noticing the name "王海峰" in the file, being the top designer of the Chengdu J36

 

[qwerty3173]

Someone on the Chinese forum found patent information that may be related to China's sixth-generation aircraft's loyal wingman. It describes a tailless flying wing drone with a large angle of attack and supersonic high-speed maneuvering flight. The drone parameters provided in it are a take-off weight of 21 tons (more than the J-10) and a wing area of 62 square meters.
China's loyal wingman obviously looks much more radical and high-end than the small loyal wingman of the United States.
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I don't see any mention of this aircraft being a drone. While it is indeed very likely its hard to make sure of this.

 

[Nevermore]

I don't see any mention of this aircraft being a drone. While it is indeed very likely its hard to make sure of this.

The original post talked about two patents, I posted one less.