Chinese UAV/UCAV development

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CETC started a JV with Baykar for the production of the TB2 in China:

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Drone Load Shrunk? The Truth You Need to Know

Let's start with a classic example. Rainbow 6 UAV has a maximum range of 12000 km and a maximum load of 2.0 tons. But why is there only 450 kg and 7000 km in this year's promotional video?

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Yes, China is not allowed to export "unmanned aerial vehicles capable of delivering a load of more than 500 kg to a distance of 300 km", which is why Rainbow 6's data on the official website of the air show was deleted two days after it was updated last year. It is estimated that the editor was confused and wrote the real data that violated the regulations.
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Another typical example is Tengdun TB001, which wrote the real data of 780 kg external load + 200 kg internal load when facing the exhibition of domestic customers. However, when they were at the air show with foreign guests, the data became classic 480 kg.
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Someone might ask, "So, the data on the air show was written randomly?"
In fact, it's not entirely true. After all, take Rainbow 6 as an example. The maximum range is 12000 km with 300 kg, and when it is with 2.0 tons, the actual maximum range is only 4500 km. It seems that there is nothing wrong when I say that the maximum load is 300 kg, after all, the range indicators are different.

The Wing Loong 3 UAV might also change the maximum load data to 480 kg next year according to the convention
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Drone Load Shrunk? The Truth You Need to Know

Let's start with a classic example. Rainbow 6 UAV has a maximum range of 12000 km and a maximum load of 2.0 tons. But why is there only 450 kg and 7000 km in this year's promotional video?

The answer can refer to this:
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Yes, China is not allowed to export "unmanned aerial vehicles capable of delivering a load of more than 500 kg to a distance of 300 km", which is why Rainbow 6's data on the official website of the air show was deleted two days after it was updated last year. It is estimated that the editor was confused and wrote the real data that violated the regulations.
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Another typical example is Tengdun TB001, which wrote the real data of 780 kg external load + 200 kg internal load when facing the exhibition of domestic customers. However, when they were at the air show with foreign guests, the data became classic 480 kg.
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Someone might ask, "So, the data on the air show was written randomly?"
In fact, it's not entirely true. After all, take Rainbow 6 as an example. The maximum range is 12000 km with 300 kg, and when it is with 2.0 tons, the actual maximum range is only 4500 km. It seems that there is nothing wrong when I say that the maximum load is 300 kg, after all, the range indicators are different.

The Wing Loong 3 UAV might also change the maximum load data to 480 kg next year according to the convention
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Does that mean the defence companies are trying to skirt around state export restrictions? There's no way to stop the customer from putting the internal weight limit on the drones with reduced range, which violates the restriction.
 

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Does that mean the defence companies are trying to skirt around state export restrictions? There's no way to stop the customer from putting the internal weight limit on the drones with reduced range, which violates the restriction.
Isn't it more like another case of MCTR and how Chinese export version rocket artillery and ballistic missiles are listed as only having 290km range unless you explicitly did that thing the instruction manual said you shouldn't do and took it apart and took out the lump of iron ballast and replaced it with a block of additional fuel which have been conveniently provided for you?
 

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Isn't it more like another case of MCTR and how Chinese export version rocket artillery and ballistic missiles are listed as only having 290km range unless you explicitly did that thing the instruction manual said you shouldn't do and took it apart and took out the lump of iron ballast and replaced it with a block of additional fuel which have been conveniently provided for you?
That's quite literally what it is. 300km and 500kg payload are the limits according to the MCTR. Americans have been exporting predator drones to anyone who wants to buy them with no regard for MCTR.

It makes no sense to retroactively apply restrictions for ballistic missiles to drones. Any decent air force should be able to intercept a slow flying drone, good luck intercepting a ballistic missile with anything other than a modern ADN.

A cessna has a range and payload that exceeds the MCTR. Is that going to be restricted as well?
 
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