Chinese UAV/UCAV development

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taxiya

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There are literally hundreds of commercially available kits that people can buy to build their own.

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From my experience working in the Chinese tech and manufacturing industries, you’ll have the serious players and a whole rash of semi fake companies who are only in it to get the government incentives and funding. They’ll come out with a half ass product that will never be commercialized, but as long as they can show some sort of development they still get the money.
Although what you said may be true, but how could you conclude who is buying the kit from whom? It could be equally possible that others are buying kits from this BGAC.

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taxiya

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I retrieved some information on this UAV. Its designation is JH-1.

Takeoff weight: 550kg
Payload: 180kg
Endurance: 3hr
Ceiling: 3000m
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in comparison
blowfish A2
max takeoff 40kg
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taxiya

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There is nothing fishy about this BGAC drone. Here is the official product page.
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The company is a joint venture between BIAC (Beijing Automotive Group Co) and the Jian Xi provincial government. BIAC is SOE who produces Mercedes. If there were a scam it would be government scamming itself.
 

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There is nothing fishy about this BGAC drone. Here is the official product page.
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The company is a joint venture between BIAC (Beijing Automotive Group Co) and the Jian Xi provincial government. BIAC is SOE who produces Mercedes. If there were a scam it would be government scamming itself.


Lol, this is exactly how these scams work. The company forms a joint venture with a local government to create a business to produce this or that product locally. The local government invests money and office/factory space while the company is supposed to bring in the expertise and technology. However, many of these companies only speak a big game, cobble together a thing that sorta looks like the product but with half the functionality and no path forward for commercialization, scaling, support, or future development. However, this is good enough for them to get multi-year funding from the government, any often times its good enough for the local government because they can show to the public that we brought in this high tech business to our city or province, if it fails in a few years no one cares.

This shit happens all the time in China and there is no reason to defend it.
 

taxiya

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Lol, this is exactly how these scams work. The company forms a joint venture with a local government to create a business to produce this or that product locally. The local government invests money and office/factory space while the company is supposed to bring in the expertise and technology. However, many of these companies only speak a big game, cobble together a thing that sorta looks like the product but with half the functionality and no path forward for commercialization, scaling, support, or future development. However, this is good enough for them to get multi-year funding from the government, any often times its good enough for the local government because they can show to the public that we brought in this high tech business to our city or province, if it fails in a few years no one cares.

This shit happens all the time in China and there is no reason to defend it.
First off, let me get things straight. you declared this particular helicopter producer is a scam by just looking at a picture of the product. I asked how you know that.

We are not talking about a nameless company and a county government, we are talking about a SOE owned by the central government and a provincial government directly answerable to the Prime Minister. If you believe this kind of JV is a scam, why don't you call SAC, CAC and Sinopharm scams? Why don't you call Li Keqing a scamer? Or that is what you actually wanted to imply? That the whole China is a scam?

I don't know how dark and corrupted that you believe China is, but certainly all your experiences were from dark places like ditches. I begin to seriously doubt what you said about your working experiences in China.
 
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taxiya

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Didn't noticed BGAC. Though the newsreel is about an interview in a facility in Jingdezhen (assuming CAIC). No idea why this BGAC prototype is there.
It is not related to CAIC. The factory happens to be in Jingdezhen. BGAC is a JV of BAIC (Beijing based car maker) with Jiang Xi province. BGAC does want to tap into the pool of intelligence of helicopter in Jingdezhen where CAIC's helicopter business is centered.
 
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