Chinese UAV/UCAV development

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Hendrik_2000

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Yes it is incredible how they churned out model after model

The AV500 helidrone and its military version
High altitude flight test Seem like they want to use it over in Tibet highland
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Hendrik_2000

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From dafeng I know war has no morality but I would not want to be on the receiving end of these missiles(my comment)

It's unveiled in the National Sci & Tech Progress Award nomination paper that over 30 CH-4 UAVs have been exported to Saudi, Iraq etc worth near 700 mil $, accumulating over 1000 sorties, 10000 flight hours, firing over 400 missiles with accuracy reaching 96% in real combat.

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700 million dollars for 30 airframes? that's price with who knows how much support included. US allegedly sold 5 unweaponised reapers to italy ten years ago, with everything included and 5 year support - 330 million dollars.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Related to the earlier post about CH4 nomination for technical award. Battle tested, High accuracy and reliable Seem like the Iraqi is highly satified with the performance of CH4. Too many photos click the link
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Improved model is on the pipe line. It is good that CASC is now competing with Wingloong II from Chengdu. Both model are now upgraded Look for more sophisticated UAV.
In the future there is no need to send manned aircraft for CAS role

Iraqi officers talk about the drone CH-4
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The Iraqi Ministry of Defense recently released a video on
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to talk about the CH-4 military drones it has acquired from China in recent years.

These drones of Chinese origin, progressively delivered to the Iraqi Army's air force since 2014, have mainly contributed to reconnaissance and strike missions against terrorists in the northwestern part of Iraq.

According to the video's commentator, the CH-4s have already conducted as many as 260 Air-Ground strikes against the major targets of the Islamic State, with a 100% success rate. An Iraqi army brigadier general reports that the drone designed by the CAAA Institute of the Chinese aerospace group CASC has demonstrated its reliability throughout the missions assigned to it, and it is especially appreciated by the precision of its weapons to hit all kinds of targets on the ground, such as car bombs even before they get close to their victims.

An Iraqi commander adds that the drone has achieved "exceptional performances" during the battles in the provinces of Nineveh and Salah ad-Din, thanks to its reliability and the precision of its weapons and reconnaissance systems, to perform strikes in depth and without risking the lives of soldiers on the ground.

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f we believe in the official records recently submitted by the manufacturer CAAA to the Chinese authorities for the nomination to the National Award for Scientific and Technological Progress (国家 科学 技术 进步 奖), about thirty CH-4 has already been delivered to customers as the l Iraq and Saudi Arabia, for a total amount that is close to 700 million US dollars.

The UAV has so far accumulated more than 1,000 sorties and 10,000 flight hours from customers, and fired more than 400 ammunition with a success rate of over 96% in real combat, and 100% in combat missions. 'training.

CAAA data specifies that the CH-4 of a maximum of 1350 kg can fly up to 40 hours with 100 kg of load, or 12 hours with ammunition up to 345 kg.


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Related to the earlier post about CH4 nomination for technical award. Battle tested, High accuracy and reliable Seem like the Iraqi is highly satified with the performance of CH4. Too many photos click the link
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Improved model is on the pipe line. It is good that CASC is now competing with Wingloong II from Chengdu. Both model are now upgraded Look for more sophisticated UAV.
In the future there is no need to send manned aircraft for CAS role

Iraqi officers talk about the drone CH-4
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The Iraqi Ministry of Defense recently released a video on
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to talk about the CH-4 military drones it has acquired from China in recent years.

These drones of Chinese origin, progressively delivered to the Iraqi Army's air force since 2014, have mainly contributed to reconnaissance and strike missions against terrorists in the northwestern part of Iraq.

According to the video's commentator, the CH-4s have already conducted as many as 260 Air-Ground strikes against the major targets of the Islamic State, with a 100% success rate. An Iraqi army brigadier general reports that the drone designed by the CAAA Institute of the Chinese aerospace group CASC has demonstrated its reliability throughout the missions assigned to it, and it is especially appreciated by the precision of its weapons to hit all kinds of targets on the ground, such as car bombs even before they get close to their victims.

An Iraqi commander adds that the drone has achieved "exceptional performances" during the battles in the provinces of Nineveh and Salah ad-Din, thanks to its reliability and the precision of its weapons and reconnaissance systems, to perform strikes in depth and without risking the lives of soldiers on the ground.

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f we believe in the official records recently submitted by the manufacturer CAAA to the Chinese authorities for the nomination to the National Award for Scientific and Technological Progress (国家 科学 技术 进步 奖), about thirty CH-4 has already been delivered to customers as the l Iraq and Saudi Arabia, for a total amount that is close to 700 million US dollars.

The UAV has so far accumulated more than 1,000 sorties and 10,000 flight hours from customers, and fired more than 400 ammunition with a success rate of over 96% in real combat, and 100% in combat missions. 'training.

CAAA data specifies that the CH-4 of a maximum of 1350 kg can fly up to 40 hours with 100 kg of load, or 12 hours with ammunition up to 345 kg.


Henri K.

That's very impressive. Did he specify what kind of targets the CH-4 destroyed?
 

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IHS Jane’s
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that Indonesia signed a deal with the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) for four Wing Loong I unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV). Manufactured by AVIC’s Chengdu Aircraft Design and Research (CADI) division, the UAVs will join the Indonesian Air Force’s (TNI-AU) Aviation Squadron 51. The Wing Loong I will form the nucleus of the TNI-AU’s strike-capable UAV force, which may grow in the future through additional imports and
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and production initiatives.

AVIC’s successful Wing Loong sale to Indonesia speaks to now long-established reality, i.e. the availability of armed UAVs from AVIC is enabling China to enter markets that are dominated by U.S., European and Russian original equipment manufacturers (OEM). Indonesia now joins the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kazakhstan and others as an operator of Chinese UAVs. The CADI Wing Loong-series and the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) CH-4-series are AVIC’s leading UAV products, with CADI and CASC competing with one another for prospective customers.

China’s strength in this market originates with its willingness to sell armed UAVs to customers that could not procure analogous solutions from the U.S. or Western Europe. In the early 2010s, these countries had included Pakistan (CH-3-series), Saudi Arabia (
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). In effect, the U.S.’ arms restrictions prevented key markets in the Middle East and Central Asia from acquiring American solutions, thus paving a clear and essentially uncontested avenue for the Chinese to enter these markets.

However, it would be unfair to now pin China’s success in selling drones to purely accessibility and cost, though these are certainly factors thanks the rapid iteration of drone technology in China atop of growing domestic and overseas-driven scale. Rather, China has begun offering truly compelling UAV solutions that aim to qualitatively enhance the end-user’s capabilities in numerous respects. For example, the
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offers a medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) capability with a sizable payload (1,200 kg) for guided air-to-surface munitions as well as surveillance and electronic intelligence equipment. On the other hand, CADI is bifurcating its UAV portfolio between its comparatively high-performance Wing Loong II and an improved, but lower-cost, development of the Wing Loong I in the
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AVIC provides prospective customers a wide-range of UAVs to select from, enabling for custom solutions (e.g. procuring a mixed or composite force of large and small MALE UAVs) and responding to diverse fiscal or budgetary requirements. The relatively rapid iteration (e.g. Wing Loong I to Wing Loong II and ID) also allows for AVIC to recapitalize its existing clientele with new drones to replace their older designs, while also substantially improving the end-user’s capabilities (e.g. through extended endurance and lower life-cycle costs). From a product standpoint at least, the strategy is generating new sales among existing users.

In January 2018, IHS Jane’s
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that the UAE was the launch customer of the Wing Loong II, which CADI claimed had secured a launch buyer before the UAV’s test-flight in early 2017. Prior, reports listed the UAE as among the CH-4’s operators. However, with Indonesia, AVIC’s customer base is also expanding, suggesting that AVIC’s OEMs are potentially viewed as industry-standard OEMs in terms of not only selling armed drones, but providing a proven track-record for sustainment/after-sale support and development. Those looking to compete with AVIC will be dealing with a party that is experienced in managing armed UAV sales, providing AVIC the coveted position of being the incumbent in the armed UAV space.

However, prospective competitors (from the U.S. Europe, Russia, etc) will have to contend with AVIC along with a growing pool of other Chinese suppliers. This includes Star UAV System Company, which revealed its
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unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) at the 2018 Singapore Air Show. Besides building upon China’s portfolio of armed UAVs, the Star Shadow adds the dimension of low radar-detectability via an airframe with a radar cross-section (RCS) of 0.1m2. If the Star Shadow comes to fruition, it would likely compete as the sole option of its kind (notwithstanding a competing AVIC UAV, such as Tianying), offering buyers a UAV solution they could apply in conventional warfare situations.

AVIC’s overseas rivals, particularly General Atomics in the US and Israel Aeronautics, reiterated the long-standing experience of their respective companies. Speaking to
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, General Atomics’ Vice President for International Strategic Development stated: “We’ve flown 5 million hours on [the MQ-9]. That’s more than all the UAVs combined in the world.” Israel Aeronautics’ Deputy Chief Executive for Marketing and Sales Dany Eshchar stated: “You cannot shortcut 40 years to five years.” Regulations and foreign relations withheld General Atomics and Israel Aeronautics, respectively, from entering the Middle East and Central Asia markets as thoroughly as AVIC. The extent to which that can change and, just as importantly, result in offers as cost-effective and technically flexible as those of AVIC remains to be seen.

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