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Its a joke really, I know about inert warheads. But people usually expects something flashy when the video has the words "missile testing" in the title.
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Hendrik_2000
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Exactly they want to know if it hit the target or not by seeing the puncture in the sheet like in this photo I thought it is impressive they hit a moving object
There is also navigation. CH-x has BDS (in addition to GPS) which fully covers Bangladesh's operational area. That is a valuable guarantee of freedom.
On the data link side, beyond 300km? (depending on the altitude), one need satellite. Turkey can not provide that capability. If Bangladesh is to acquire satellite channel for that purpose, it is almost certain to be Chinese satellite.
Regarding price, I doubt Turkey can build something cheaper than China with the same quality.
I think (@jobjed as well), Turkey's bid is not (and should not be seen) as surprise even though its chance is small, because anybody will give a try even they face a strong headwind, especially Turkey in recent years demonstrating an aggressive push for domestic military industry.
About the model on the previous page, here's Henri Kenhmann's on the Sharp Sword from May.
He says the Sharp Sword was an "unmanned ground attack platform" demonstrator for the Chinese Air Force. At least two planes were built and over 150 ground and flight tests were conducted. The project is over as the teams received various awards. A stealth attack drone in service is only a matter of time.
Then the picture could be of the version which will see service. This possibly matches the information that it's no longer called Sharp Sword, if that name was only for the demonstrator.
He says the Sharp Sword was an "unmanned ground attack platform" demonstrator for the Chinese Air Force. At least two planes were built and over 150 ground and flight tests were conducted. The project is over as the teams received various awards. A stealth attack drone in service is only a matter of time.
Then the picture could be of the version which will see service. This possibly matches the information that it's no longer called Sharp Sword, if that name was only for the demonstrator.
SinoSoldier
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Back in February, a self-proclaimed eyewitness from Shenyang claimed to have seen two Sharp Sword prototypes, one black and one matte, make multiple flights at SAC.
Hendrik_2000
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- Factory 132, also known as the Chengdu Aircraft Industrial Group (CAC), begins the "batch" delivery of its new Wing Loong II armed MALE drone. The Chinese manufacturer estimates the size of the potential export market to "several hundred" device.
From Henri K blog
Hendrik_2000
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Here it is according to Henri K it is now entered into serial production
Since the end of the development of the "unmanned ground attack platform" in 2016, a demonstration project that was directly funded by the Chinese Air Force during the 12th Five-Year Plan (2011-2015) and which resulted in the creation of a stealth flying-wing drone known as the Sharp Sword , many are wondering when a real industrial program would finally see the light of day, to resume the fruit of the work done.
And it is the Chinese aeronautics group AVIC, the parent company of the 601 Shenyang Institute and HAIG, which took charge respectively of the design and construction of the drone in question, which seems to have given the answer recently through an official collection model.
At first glance, the Sharp Sword demonstrator and the model drone have no big differences. The most visible is undoubtedly the new stealth nozzle that now replaces the "standard", very controversial, the Chinese engine WS-13 or Russian RD-93 .
The aerodynamic configuration seems to remain globally identical for both, with a wing swept to 53 ° (?), A dorsal air inlet of triangular shape and no apparent drift. The two ventral bunkers remain near the longitudinal axis of the cell, with the main gear positioned more outward, probably to gain depth and thus the exploitable volume dedicated to Air-Surface ammunition.
In contrast, the "new" Sharp Sword stands out with several interesting details. Firstly, there is a pyramid fairing located under the nose , which is very similar to the F-35 AN / AAQ-40EOTS system for identifying ground targets and guiding Air-Surface weapons.
Extract from a study published by CARIA, a subsidiary of the AVIC group, in June 2013
Then there are three "trisecteur" symbols, which signal the ionizing radiation, located above the dorsal air inlet and on the leading edges of the wing. They therefore suggest that electromagnetic transmitters and receivers could be installed in these places, such as the SATCOM antenna on the top, forcing the air duct to take an S shape to improve the frontal radar equivalent signature of the SATCOM antenna. drone, and the compliant antennas CNI (Communications / Navigation / Identification) as well as EW (Electronic Warfare) pointing to the front on the wing.
The model shows that this drone "industrialized version" could carry up to eight small diameter guided bombs, probably 100 kg each, or two guided bombs with 500 kg diamond wing kit. The Sharp Sword, demonstrator or series, would therefore obviously always dedicated to Air-Surface attack missions.
Note that the shape of the ventral bunker and that of the "big" 500 kg bomb are reminiscent of a wind tunnel model published in a research paper by China Aerodynamics Research Institute of Aeronautics (CARIA), a subsidiary of the AVIC group. . The text published in June 2013 analyzes the impact of the opening of bunkers on the flight of a flying wing drone having the same configuration as the Sharp Sword .
The model was placed in CARIA's FL-2 wind tunnel to study the variation of the drag and the finess of the aircraft with a ventral bunker open when a bomb was dropped. The tests were carried out under a maximum Mach 0.8 speed and a varied incident angle between -2 and + 8 °.
Although it is not known if the study is directly related or not with the Sharp Sword project of the time, but it gives us an idea on the conditions of use envisaged by the Chinese for their future drone.
The official model of the Z-20 military helicopter, recently launched (Photo: DS 北风)
The drone WD-1K, known mainly under its name of export Wing Loong I, serving the Chinese Air Force since 2012 (Photo: PLAAF)
We can not draw much more on this model of the new Sharp Sword but the question on the launch or not of mass production of this stealth drone ground attack remains full. In general, the Chinese aircraft manufacturer is used to starting to make collection models under their name once the projects have entered the production phase. This was recently the case for the new Z-20 helicopter, whose official model was revealed for the same occasion.
It is therefore likely that this is the case for the Sharp Sword project , which should, moreover, be given a new official reference by the Chinese army if its entry into mass production is confirmed.
After the entry into service of the first WD-1K (Wing Loong I) armed drone in the Chinese Air Force in 2012, and , the time has come may have come for the Chinese Air Force to equip itself with its second unmanned attack platform.
In an increasingly "integrated" and "fusional" doctrine between the different devices, the insertion of semi-automated vectors certainly requires a thorough work to review certain operational processes. It can be seen that the WD-1K drones have just started to participate in the exercises of the Chinese Air Force alongside the piloted aircraft, the road could still be long for a new vector, which is furtive and a new category, to integrate and find your best place in the ranks.
To be continued.
Henri K.
Hendrik_2000
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Back half year ago we have rumor of UAV competition in Saudi Arabia where the Saudi let loose remote controlled jeep and let the CH4 track and destroyed it Well we now have photo of those remote controlled Jeep
I have always wondered when this demonstration of a strike against a remote controlled Jeep in Saudi Arabia (or UAE?), Carried out by a Wing Loong I drone, took place. The success of this test led to the signing of the acquisition contract. It seems that the answer is there ...
I have always wondered when this demonstration of a strike against a remote controlled Jeep in Saudi Arabia (or UAE?), Carried out by a Wing Loong I drone, took place. The success of this test led to the signing of the acquisition contract. It seems that the answer is there ...
Hendrik_2000
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Latest Henri K article on UAV
Drone: Chengdu delivers first batches of Wing Loong II to customers
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Less than a year after having flown its new Wing Loong II military drone , Chengdu Aircraft Industrial Group (CAC), a subsidiary of the Chinese aviation group AVIC specializing in the production of civilian and military aircraft, has already made the first lots "delivery for its customers. This is in any case what says LI Yi Dong, chief engineer of the program at the 611 Chengdu Institute, design office responsible for the design of the Wing Loong drones, in a broadcast TV report two days ago on the Chinese national channel CCTV.
At least four Wing Loong II, in pale gray livery ready for delivery, can be seen in CAC's drone preparation hall, where a fifth naked cell is also located. It is in this same place that the Wing Loong I , the first model of the family, .
More than 300 private companies are involved today to provide about 60% of the 130 thousand parts and components that make up the drone. To meet a full order book and very short delivery times, Chengdu has even decided to outsource the final assembly of Wing Loong II. A first local company, Xin Jing Aviation (鑫 旌 航空), has already inaugurated , with a first aircraft sent to the air in July 2017.
For the moment, it is unclear to whom the first Wing Loong II were delivered, but among the countries that have acquired this family of Chinese armed drones, namely China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, the United Arab Emirates, the United Egypt and Saudi Arabia, it is the latter which seems to have the most urgent need in its theaters of current operations to have a reconnaissance platform and ground strike of long autonomy. Signs also show that the Chinese Air Force would be preparing for the reception of this larger model, if it is not already the case.
Four times heavier than the previous Wing Loong I, which made its first flight in October 2007, the Wing Loong II, with a maximum takeoff weight of 4,200 kg, has made China the second-largest country in the world capable of build a Medium Altitude and Long Endurance (MALE) armed drone in this template.
This new version is 11 meters long, 4.1 meters high and 20.5 meters wide. It is capable of flying up to 9,000 meters above sea level, with a top speed of 370 km / h. With a larger size and a new turboprop of Chinese origin, the Wing Loong II can carry 480 kg of weapons on its 6 points of carriage, ie 12 ammunition Air-Sol in total, for missions of identification and typing.
For reconnaissance missions, it can count on a complete optronic suite equipped with TV, IR and laser channels, as well as a Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR). The autonomy of the drone is given at 20 hours in flight when the device is fully armed.
"The Wing Loong II is at the same level as the American UAV MQ-9 Reaper, " said LI after , "We are competing with the best drones in the world in the same category , with our own technologies, and we could surpass them in the near future. "
The potential size of the export market for Wing Loong drones is estimated at "several hundred" aircraft, according to the chief engineer of the Chinese design office.
It should be noted that the Chinese drone recently completed its last shooting campaign in 2017, during which it broke the Chinese record in number of types of ammunition launched in a single flight cycle.
It is then learned that Wing Loong II actually used five different types of Air-to-Ground ammunition, to hit several fixed and mobile targets on the ground, in a test campaign that took place in a desert area in Ningxia Province.
The images of the reportage actually show that the drone in flight with ammunition of different Chinese weapon manufacturers. For example, we can see the ATM missiles of what appears to be Blue Arrow from the NORINCO group, the LS-6 100 kg laser guided bombs from the AVIC group, or a tri-pack missile that could be either the Air missile -Air TY-90 from AVIC or the Air-Sol TL-2 missile from the CASC group.
On this last point, it seems unlikely to date that a Chinese drone be asked to carry ammunition for air combat, for a question of doctrine, technology and especially interest. It is therefore possible that it is the TL-2 of CASC, competitor of AVIC which markets itself MALE drones known under the name of CH-4 and CH-5 in Middle East, which one sees wearing by the Wing Loong II.
And it is precisely this missile TL-2 which suggests that it is Saudi Arabia which would be receiving, if it is not already the case, the Wing Loong II. Indeed, the country has also acquired the CH-4 military drone designed by the CASC group and it is therefore logical that it shares the same ammunition with the AVIC drone to reduce the pressure on logistical support.
The control interface in the ground station is also in English (?), Which would rule out the possibility that the shooting campaign will be carried out for aircraft to be delivered to the Chinese Air Force.
The Wing Long II drone drops a 100 kg LS-6 laser guided bomb designed by the AVIC group (Image: CCTV)
Drone: Chengdu delivers first batches of Wing Loong II to customers
BY
Less than a year after having flown its new Wing Loong II military drone , Chengdu Aircraft Industrial Group (CAC), a subsidiary of the Chinese aviation group AVIC specializing in the production of civilian and military aircraft, has already made the first lots "delivery for its customers. This is in any case what says LI Yi Dong, chief engineer of the program at the 611 Chengdu Institute, design office responsible for the design of the Wing Loong drones, in a broadcast TV report two days ago on the Chinese national channel CCTV.
At least four Wing Loong II, in pale gray livery ready for delivery, can be seen in CAC's drone preparation hall, where a fifth naked cell is also located. It is in this same place that the Wing Loong I , the first model of the family, .
More than 300 private companies are involved today to provide about 60% of the 130 thousand parts and components that make up the drone. To meet a full order book and very short delivery times, Chengdu has even decided to outsource the final assembly of Wing Loong II. A first local company, Xin Jing Aviation (鑫 旌 航空), has already inaugurated , with a first aircraft sent to the air in July 2017.
For the moment, it is unclear to whom the first Wing Loong II were delivered, but among the countries that have acquired this family of Chinese armed drones, namely China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, the United Arab Emirates, the United Egypt and Saudi Arabia, it is the latter which seems to have the most urgent need in its theaters of current operations to have a reconnaissance platform and ground strike of long autonomy. Signs also show that the Chinese Air Force would be preparing for the reception of this larger model, if it is not already the case.
Four times heavier than the previous Wing Loong I, which made its first flight in October 2007, the Wing Loong II, with a maximum takeoff weight of 4,200 kg, has made China the second-largest country in the world capable of build a Medium Altitude and Long Endurance (MALE) armed drone in this template.
This new version is 11 meters long, 4.1 meters high and 20.5 meters wide. It is capable of flying up to 9,000 meters above sea level, with a top speed of 370 km / h. With a larger size and a new turboprop of Chinese origin, the Wing Loong II can carry 480 kg of weapons on its 6 points of carriage, ie 12 ammunition Air-Sol in total, for missions of identification and typing.
For reconnaissance missions, it can count on a complete optronic suite equipped with TV, IR and laser channels, as well as a Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR). The autonomy of the drone is given at 20 hours in flight when the device is fully armed.
"The Wing Loong II is at the same level as the American UAV MQ-9 Reaper, " said LI after , "We are competing with the best drones in the world in the same category , with our own technologies, and we could surpass them in the near future. "
The potential size of the export market for Wing Loong drones is estimated at "several hundred" aircraft, according to the chief engineer of the Chinese design office.
It should be noted that the Chinese drone recently completed its last shooting campaign in 2017, during which it broke the Chinese record in number of types of ammunition launched in a single flight cycle.
It is then learned that Wing Loong II actually used five different types of Air-to-Ground ammunition, to hit several fixed and mobile targets on the ground, in a test campaign that took place in a desert area in Ningxia Province.
The images of the reportage actually show that the drone in flight with ammunition of different Chinese weapon manufacturers. For example, we can see the ATM missiles of what appears to be Blue Arrow from the NORINCO group, the LS-6 100 kg laser guided bombs from the AVIC group, or a tri-pack missile that could be either the Air missile -Air TY-90 from AVIC or the Air-Sol TL-2 missile from the CASC group.
On this last point, it seems unlikely to date that a Chinese drone be asked to carry ammunition for air combat, for a question of doctrine, technology and especially interest. It is therefore possible that it is the TL-2 of CASC, competitor of AVIC which markets itself MALE drones known under the name of CH-4 and CH-5 in Middle East, which one sees wearing by the Wing Loong II.
And it is precisely this missile TL-2 which suggests that it is Saudi Arabia which would be receiving, if it is not already the case, the Wing Loong II. Indeed, the country has also acquired the CH-4 military drone designed by the CASC group and it is therefore logical that it shares the same ammunition with the AVIC drone to reduce the pressure on logistical support.
The control interface in the ground station is also in English (?), Which would rule out the possibility that the shooting campaign will be carried out for aircraft to be delivered to the Chinese Air Force.
The Wing Long II drone drops a 100 kg LS-6 laser guided bomb designed by the AVIC group (Image: CCTV)
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