Chinese UAV/UCAV development
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PiSigma
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Version 1 and 2 have different mission profiles? Unless 1 is significantly cheaper, I don't see the point of anyone buying version 1. Also that's a lot of missiles on that model, I don't think it can carry 8 on each wing.Continued...
The Wing Loong II is being produced in the same facility alongside the Wing Loong I.
Hendrik_2000
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Henri K take on the newly release video about Wingloong II The main news is Wingloong II use WJ9A the same turboprop on Y12IV and it is reliable never experience failure. The 2nd news Wingloong II has been operating for some time. the 3rd new is 60% of the components are sourced from private company. A 2nd system integrator is also private company. Showing a mature and autonomous ecosystem of component suppliers as well as improve civilian military integration
Last is the range is several thousand kilometer and not 200 km this is astonishing a over the horizon navigation system on board
New details on the Chinese armored MALE drone Wing Loong II were revealed in a documentary broadcast on Monday on the local television channel CCTV-2.
For example, Wing Loong II drones have already performed "a few hundred" hours of flight since its inaugural flight, which took place on February 27, 2017.
According to LI Yi Dong, chief engineer of the Wing Loong program at the 611 Chengdu Institute of the AVIC Group, the WJ-9A turboprop engine , derived from the WJ-9 which is used on the Y-12IV light transport aircraft , has not yet experienced a major flight failure until now.
This is an advance in itself as the first version of the Wing Loong family of drones, Wing Loong I , was forced to equip with a foreign piston engine .
Capable of arming up to 16 missiles of a total mass not exceeding 480 kg, out of MTOW's 4,200 kg, it is not yet known whether the Wing Loong II has already conducted shooting campaigns in flight. But according to the report, the various Wing Loong who are currently on active duty in several air forces of the world, including the Chinese Air Force, have already fired "nearly 1,000 missiles", with a rate of success of "more than 90%".
The difference in carrying capacity between Wing Loong I and Wing Loong II (Images: CCTV-2)
If these figures seem appealing commercially, LI Yi Dong himself prefers to highlight the automatism of his drones, while admitting that Chinese manufacturers are still looking for the frontier between human intervention and autonomous decision of the machine.
And he also spoke for the first time of control and satellite communication of Wing Loong, which allows to extend the radius of control to several thousands of kilometer, against 200 before in LOS mode.
The chief engineer of Chengdu thus confirms the use of Chinese communications satellites in geostationary orbit, located 35,786 km above the equator, to serve as relay for data transfer with ground stations.
To compensate for the problem of a "few seconds" latency between two terminals (drone and station), the Chinese teams had to create a kind of temporary compensator to fill this time period, which is crucial for precision recognition that are very sensitive to the notion of time.
Last is the range is several thousand kilometer and not 200 km this is astonishing a over the horizon navigation system on board
New details on the Chinese armored MALE drone Wing Loong II were revealed in a documentary broadcast on Monday on the local television channel CCTV-2.
For example, Wing Loong II drones have already performed "a few hundred" hours of flight since its inaugural flight, which took place on February 27, 2017.
According to LI Yi Dong, chief engineer of the Wing Loong program at the 611 Chengdu Institute of the AVIC Group, the WJ-9A turboprop engine , derived from the WJ-9 which is used on the Y-12IV light transport aircraft , has not yet experienced a major flight failure until now.
This is an advance in itself as the first version of the Wing Loong family of drones, Wing Loong I , was forced to equip with a foreign piston engine .
Capable of arming up to 16 missiles of a total mass not exceeding 480 kg, out of MTOW's 4,200 kg, it is not yet known whether the Wing Loong II has already conducted shooting campaigns in flight. But according to the report, the various Wing Loong who are currently on active duty in several air forces of the world, including the Chinese Air Force, have already fired "nearly 1,000 missiles", with a rate of success of "more than 90%".
The difference in carrying capacity between Wing Loong I and Wing Loong II (Images: CCTV-2)
If these figures seem appealing commercially, LI Yi Dong himself prefers to highlight the automatism of his drones, while admitting that Chinese manufacturers are still looking for the frontier between human intervention and autonomous decision of the machine.
And he also spoke for the first time of control and satellite communication of Wing Loong, which allows to extend the radius of control to several thousands of kilometer, against 200 before in LOS mode.
The chief engineer of Chengdu thus confirms the use of Chinese communications satellites in geostationary orbit, located 35,786 km above the equator, to serve as relay for data transfer with ground stations.
To compensate for the problem of a "few seconds" latency between two terminals (drone and station), the Chinese teams had to create a kind of temporary compensator to fill this time period, which is crucial for precision recognition that are very sensitive to the notion of time.
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Hendrik_2000
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The lateral SAR radar
The images on the monitor screen also suggest that the Wing Loong II is equipped with LINs (Laser Inertial Navigation System) and dGPS (differential GPS) for navigation.
There is as yet no clear indication as to whether the Beidou receiver will be integrated with the machines that will be delivered to export, as in Saudi Arabia for example.
One of the navigation screens of Wing Loong II (Images: CCTV-2)
Finally, in addition to a first Wing Loong II fully assembled at a subcontractor of AVIC (see our article " "), over 60% of the components drone come from private actors in China, this shows that there is a real willingness of Chengdu to extend its supply chain, and build a complete and autonomous ecosystem around the Wing Loong drones, relying on industrial processes of increasingly mature.
Henri K.
The lateral SAR radar
The images on the monitor screen also suggest that the Wing Loong II is equipped with LINs (Laser Inertial Navigation System) and dGPS (differential GPS) for navigation.
There is as yet no clear indication as to whether the Beidou receiver will be integrated with the machines that will be delivered to export, as in Saudi Arabia for example.
One of the navigation screens of Wing Loong II (Images: CCTV-2)
Finally, in addition to a first Wing Loong II fully assembled at a subcontractor of AVIC (see our article " "), over 60% of the components drone come from private actors in China, this shows that there is a real willingness of Chengdu to extend its supply chain, and build a complete and autonomous ecosystem around the Wing Loong drones, relying on industrial processes of increasingly mature.
Henri K.
by78
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AV500W (continued)...
Here you can see a ground attack munition being loaded onto a (detachable) weapons pylon. Also notice in the background, in the left-hand corner, there is a larger unit under wraps (marked with a red arrow). The shape looks unfamiliar, so I wonder what that could be.
Specs, with translation after the photo.
Length overall (with rotor spinning): 7.204m
Height overall: 2.415m
Width overall (with rotor spinning): 6.27m
Fuselage length: 5.05m
Fuselage width (without landing skids): 0.96m
Fuselage width (with landing skids): 1.54m
Main rotor diameter: 6.27m
Tail rotor diameter: 1.08m
Max take-off weight: 470kg
Mission(?) load (?): 120kg
Effective/Useful(?) load(?): 160kg
Max speed: 170km/h
Cruising speed: 120km/hr
Operational ceiling: 4000m
Remote control range (line of sight?): 200km
Endurance: 8 hours
My Chinese is very limited, so I've marked the parts I'm unsure about with question marks. If someone could help me out with a better translation, I'd really appreciate it.
Here you can see a ground attack munition being loaded onto a (detachable) weapons pylon. Also notice in the background, in the left-hand corner, there is a larger unit under wraps (marked with a red arrow). The shape looks unfamiliar, so I wonder what that could be.
Specs, with translation after the photo.
Length overall (with rotor spinning): 7.204m
Height overall: 2.415m
Width overall (with rotor spinning): 6.27m
Fuselage length: 5.05m
Fuselage width (without landing skids): 0.96m
Fuselage width (with landing skids): 1.54m
Main rotor diameter: 6.27m
Tail rotor diameter: 1.08m
Max take-off weight: 470kg
Mission(?) load (?): 120kg
Effective/Useful(?) load(?): 160kg
Max speed: 170km/h
Cruising speed: 120km/hr
Operational ceiling: 4000m
Remote control range (line of sight?): 200km
Endurance: 8 hours
My Chinese is very limited, so I've marked the parts I'm unsure about with question marks. If someone could help me out with a better translation, I'd really appreciate it.
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by78
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More information on the TB001 UAV, shown at the China-ASEAN Expo in Nanning, China. The manufacturer is 腾盾科技, English name Tengoen, from Sichuan province.
Manufacturer specs:
Max take-off weight: 2800kg
Operational ceiling: 8000m
Line-of-sight control radius: 280km
Satellite control radius: 3000km+
Endurance: 35 hours
Manufacturer specs:
Max take-off weight: 2800kg
Operational ceiling: 8000m
Line-of-sight control radius: 280km
Satellite control radius: 3000km+
Endurance: 35 hours
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