Chinese shipbuilding industry

asif iqbal

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Russia should not be smashing the ice up North just to get a trade route

we all know what they did to the Aral Sea

they have no respect for nature
 

Tam

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I like the way these videos appreciate the sheer size of these monsters. COSCO Volga container ship. 9400 TEU puts you far from the giants in the field, and yet she is about 300 meters long.


COSCO Galaxy has a capacity of 21000 TEU, and is about 399 meters long.

 

Tam

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Some US politicians wants to require that the US LNG trade to other countries should require having US made or refitted LNG carriers. The reasons are understandable, you are not going to have control and be competitive as a carbon energy supplier if you don't have the ships to bring your product around.

For reasons that are TLDR, Good Luck with that. The US hasn't built such ships for decades.

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This is why most Indian news outlets to me, bluntly speaking, suck.


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Ok. Article failed not check the nearby shipyards, like where the Shandong is. See the shipyards to the left.


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The dry docks are full of LNG carriers and tankers under construction, the commercial ships that happen to be DSIC's specialty and staple.

As much as DSIC is known in the Internet for making warships, its bread and butter is always been commercial, and in particular, building tankers.

China alone probably needs about 400 to 500 ships in the near future in order to replace its aging ships, new ships to meet new safety and emission standards, and to deliver both imports and exports to its growing economy, and that's in addition to making new ships to global clients.

Trade journals paint a different picture from the Indian article.

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Sorry this one is on a paid wall but the title says the gist of it.

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"South Korea has the largest market share in the global shipbuilding market, followed by China and Japan. The global market share of the Korean shipbuilding industry has reached 34%; the global market share of China’s shipbuilding industry is 33%; the global market share of the Japanese shipbuilding industry is 17%. In Korea, the government is taking various initiatives to support the shipbuilding industry, and Korea has the largest share of new orders. The global share of China’s shipbuilding is growing steadily. In Japan, several reforms have taken place.The global shipbuilding market is expected to grow in future due to increasing seaborne trade and economic growth, rising energy consumption, demand of eco-friendly ships and shipping services, and the advent of robotics in shipbuilding. Orders are declining, many shipyards have stopped production and went bankrupt. However, such changes have also led to a small increase in the price of the order. The world is continuing to change at a rapid pace."

In other words, China builds 1 out of 3 new ships in the world, and nearly 3 out of 4 ships are built in Asia. Things may not be so smooth, but the fundamentals are there.
 

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It is actually more reassuring they are doing civilian work than launching warships. Those actually can boost the real economy instead of just being a sink for resources. With all the already launched military ships, plus all the refurbishments, China does not need to be in a hurry to build more military naval vessels. They already can overmatch any of the naval powers in the Asian area.
 

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This is why most Indian news outlets to me, bluntly speaking, suck.


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Ok. Article failed not check the nearby shipyards, like where the Shandong is. See the shipyards to the left.


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The dry docks are full of LNG carriers and tankers under construction, the commercial ships that happen to be DSIC's specialty and staple.

As much as DSIC is known in the Internet for making warships, its bread and butter is always been commercial, and in particular, building tankers.

China alone probably needs about 400 to 500 ships in the near future in order to replace its aging ships, new ships to meet new safety and emission standards, and to deliver both imports and exports to its growing economy, and that's in addition to making new ships to global clients.

Trade journals paint a different picture from the Indian article.

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Sorry this one is on a paid wall but the title says the gist of it.

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"South Korea has the largest market share in the global shipbuilding market, followed by China and Japan. The global market share of the Korean shipbuilding industry has reached 34%; the global market share of China’s shipbuilding industry is 33%; the global market share of the Japanese shipbuilding industry is 17%. In Korea, the government is taking various initiatives to support the shipbuilding industry, and Korea has the largest share of new orders. The global share of China’s shipbuilding is growing steadily. In Japan, several reforms have taken place.The global shipbuilding market is expected to grow in future due to increasing seaborne trade and economic growth, rising energy consumption, demand of eco-friendly ships and shipping services, and the advent of robotics in shipbuilding. Orders are declining, many shipyards have stopped production and went bankrupt. However, such changes have also led to a small increase in the price of the order. The world is continuing to change at a rapid pace."

In other words, China builds 1 out of 3 new ships in the world, and nearly 3 out of 4 ships are built in Asia. Things may not be so smooth, but the fundamentals are there.
CJK controls 84% of shipbuilding markets?
Damn, from semi engineering, electronics, EV battery to shipbuilding, East Asia indeed is the subcontinent of Industry. Too bad we won't see EU level integration soon. Should that happen then East Asia undoubtedly will become the center of the world.
 

Tam

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Korean shipbuilders have captured more ship orders in the last quarter over China but Chinese shipbuilders have more orders overall for 2020. The third place is surprising --- Russia. Japan has fallen to the fourth, but in terms of tonnage, would be third.

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Chinese shipbuilders recovering their pace after the coronavirus. 90% of their output is related to export. Korea's recent lead in obtaining orders comes from Russian and Qatar oil companies ordering LNG carriers, and a number of LNG carrier orders also went to a Russian shipbuilder. The Russian orders are related to the Yamal LNG project.

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Russia looking to build 15 Arc7 LNG carriers on their own is an enormous leap over the US which is struggling to find means to build one. So far the US has built LNG bunkering barges, but its entire LNG and indeed, its oil industry is in the mercy of foreign ships when it comes to delivery.

This 2015 article remains as true and timely today.
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Tam

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Does anyone know what Japan is doing to compete with South Korea and China in shipbuilding?

Not much. They are struggling demographically. They seem to be suffering the same problems that caused the US and UK shipbuilding industries to enter their sunset --- which ironically at that time, was replaced by Japan taking the lead in shipbuilding in the seventies. So far they have been giving financial aid to their shipbuilders and planning to merge them.

Higher cost of steel.
High cost of labor.
Decreasing pool of skilled labor and engineers.
Lack of infrastructure as in new huge drydocks.
 
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