Chinese shipbuilding industry

lcloo

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Is China's building enough ships for its own trading fleet? Instead of just building for others, they should expand and dominate the shipping industry worldwide, whether it is freight or crude oil tankers.
This should answer your question.

COSCO Shipping is a Chinese shipping company.
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56860

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Do you think the increase of robot penetration in shipbuilding industry in China is a main contributing factors ?
Yes.

Automation presents a large fixed cost and is only financially viable if you are pumping out enough products to cover that fixed cost. For production lines that experience low volumes, it would not be financially viable to automate them.

Large production volumes justify automation, which in turn further facilitates economies of scale through efficiency gains.
 

by78

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An article talks about a certain dual-use (i.e. military and civilian) vessel/platform currently under construction. It mentions that it has an integrated electric propulsion system. Some Weibo users speculate that the vessel is a new Yuanwang space tracking ship.

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Tam

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IEP is being tested on a land vehicle. What are the benefits of proliferating IEP both civlian and military?

In civilian terms, we call it a hybrid. Although in this world there are many hybrid systems, the one closest to this is Nissan's e-power, which is not available in the US for a strange reason but is everywhere else. There's the Kicks e-power and the X-trail e-power (Rogue). Unlike other hybrids that have a clutch that will directly transfer mechanical power from the engine to the wheels combined with electric motors on situation by computer determination, e-power is 100 percent electric driven and the engine is purely for regenerating the batteries. Chinese PHEVs also follow this scheme.

In war, full electric drive was first used on land as the Porsche Tiger 1(P) and as the Elefant tank destroyer in WW2. Designer was Dr. Ferdinand Porsche, designer of the VW Beetle, whose son later founded the sports car company. It was an immature technology back then, and the failure rate of the Elefants contributed to the failure of the Battle of Kursk.

But because the implentation of electric drive goes so back early, the patents have so long expired and opens the gate for different companies to implement hybrid technologies without IP barriers.

The main advantages of using fully electric drive is the same as that of any EV. Great fuel economy via superior thermal efficiency along with full torque flat out from any RPM. This eliminates the need for any conventional transmission including belt driven CVT and double clutch transmissions. Then this added to what's uniquely for a car called regenerative braking, where the car on brake returns it's kinetic energy back to the battery and allows it to reuse again. Other collateral advantages include the removal of starter motors and alternators, fully electric driven aircons, double the life on your brakes. This improves reliability. With trucks and the like, it's about the torque that you can use to haul and tow things and the fuel economy. The instant torque is also vital for off-roading, and from this point you can see it's potential military benefits.
 

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first CCS class hydrogen fueled ship

总长49.9米、型宽10.4米、型深3.2米,采用中国船舶第七一二研究所开发的氢燃料电池和锂电池动力系统,氢燃料电池额定输出功率500KW,最高航速28km/h,巡航航速20km/h时续航里程可达200km。
500kW motor
28 km/h top speed
20km/h cruising speed for 200km range

i mean this is just a concept ship. A lot of work still needed to make this larger and travel further
 

sheogorath

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Article about increasing gap in shipbuilding capabilities between the US and China. Mentions that around 50 shipyards in China are capable of working with aircraft carriers and that there is a shipyard in China with more capability than all US shipyards combined.

It has its usual dose of cope.

“[W]hen you have unemployment at less than 4%, it makes it a real challenge whether you’re trying to find workers for a restaurant or you’re trying to find workers for a shipyard,” he explained. "They’re a communist country, they don’t have rules by which they abide by."

"They use slave labor in building their ships, right,” Del Toro also asserted. "That’s not the way we should do business ever, but that’s what we’re up against so it does present a significant advantage."

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azn_cyniq

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Article about increasing gap in shipbuilding capabilities between the US and China. Mentions that around 50 shipyards in China are capable of working with aircraft carriers and that there is a shipyard in China with more capability than all US shipyards combined.

It has its usual dose of cope.



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How is this imbecile the Secretary of the Navy...
 
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