Global Times won't tell you the good stuff. *wink*
Chinese semiconductor industry
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@asta bro old news but at least perfect timing for you, $300 billion IOT market by 2024 and currently 45% of world Chip demand, the 2022 mass production of 14nm domestic line will help China in its industrialization drive despite the threat of sanction. Bro stay tuned, there will be more good news and I expect to hear from you so stayed out of trouble.
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What's new here? Wasn't SMIC able to mass produce at 14nm last year or even earlier already? I hate all these recycling old news or reporting non-news or predicting future news just to prey on people's eagerness to see greatest leap-forward in semiconductor made by China yesterday.
Unless, of course, it is talking about 14nm production line built with indigenous equipment. But then again, that was reported many times before and unless there is something new, there is really no need to repeat the same thing in monthly cycle to ease the anxiety.
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@weig2000 sorry bro, I fell victim to his click bait, should had known better.
No problem. I didn't mean to direct at you. I guess I've been reading too much of these kinds of non-news and got frustrated. ;-). We should strive to keep this thread relatively informative and insightful.
Cheers.
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@ansy1968 , so why Intel still mainly stuck with 14nm for almost 10 yrs and not able to break the barrier for 7nm ?
Something like this, we need constant updates if it is actually happening and a time table for deployment.
If we were farmers, we would still update the status of our crops in the fields, even though there is nothing going on except watching the weather, birds, pests.
The more complicated the system, the entire IC system chain here, the more points of failure.
They are trying to build the entire IC supply system completely new, never have they done that before, and who knows what is missing or what they forgot to do.
If this was just a manufacturing task, with the just-in-time manufacturing paradigm, we still need some updates, such as when do we expect the parts to arrive.
That is a good example, because even in this day and age of well established just-in-time manufacturing, all of the sudden there are bottlenecks and actual shortages, in a system that has been perfected.
It takes a long time to do what they are trying to do. It appears to be all on schedule. Ask India. If it is not on schedule, it does not get done. We need constant weather updates on our crop in the field.
They got some Indian engineers in the US?
Let's not talk about other stuff not directly related to IC, that involves minorities.
Diversity is great!
But perhaps, not in this thread.
Open source in China should not be a surprise.
Even in Shenzhen, many of the manufacturers believe in open source hardware models. Just look at Amazon US, you will see 20 different models of the almost the same vacuum cleaner.
Alibaba runs their web infrastructure on tengine which is a fork of nginx. Most Chinese companies are not trying to reinvent the wheel, so if open-source software can be leveraged to provide a technological base for advanced development, then it is smart to take advantage of it. To me, all the talk about "Chinese copying" is just an excuse to try to shame Chinese companies to waste time and divert resources.
They said Huawei was copying Cisco routers and switches in the early days. 20 years later, Huawei is undisputedly the 5G leader, with nobody to copy from. Still the competition is throwing sh*t at them, going as far as arresting the CFO.
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