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european_guy

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The way they used to validate 90 nm scanner was a totally failure,

I read somewhere that SMEE 90nm used many foreign components, including Gigaphoton as light source.

We don't know why it was dead on arrival, we can assume prototype didn't work and didn't reach targeted specs. But anyhow in the past SMEE used many foreign suppliers. Their new machines are 100% localized (and now they are also on entity list, just to be sure they don't change their mind).

My impression is that in the past they were left more or less alone in their development, yes they were granted funds, but that's all. Today they and their key suppliers have strong engeneering support from Huawei, ICRD and many national research institutes. China realized (a bit late IMO) that lithography machine development requires a nation level effort.
 

gelgoog

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SMEE probably hit the requirements for the initial 90nm lithography machine just fine. It is just that government requirements for Project 02 to have a machine suitable for government military applications, with limited production runs, are not on the same level as commercial mass production in terms of output. As for the light sources, RSlaser has made domestic light sources, so if they were imported at one point, which I kind of doubt, they sure won't be soon.
 
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He is referring to the immersion 28nm machine of SMEE. Previously stated that it was ready to be delivered....it has now been delivered to customer for validation and acceptance testing.

This is a milestone. A good way to start 2023.
Bro is that U-Precision dual stage bench exchange system?
 

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He is referring to the immersion 28nm machine of SMEE. Previously stated that it was ready to be delivered....it has now been delivered to customer for validation and acceptance testing.

This is a milestone. A good way to start 2023.
Havok is just a poster on a forum not different from us. He doesn't post any links to back up his claims. There are no official announcements on this delivery either from the government, media, SMIC or from SMEE self. Unless I see some official announcements I remain skeptical about the claims that the SMEE 28NM DUV machine is ready now.
 
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latenlazy

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Havok is just a poster on a forum not different from us. He doesn't post any links to back up his claims. There are no official announcements on this delivery either from the government, media, SMIC or for SMEE self. Unless I see some official announcements I remain skeptical about the claims that the SMEE 28NM DUV machine is ready now.
…we had a government official earlier this year saying in public that the DUVi project is complete.
 

Franklin

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…we had a government official earlier this year saying in public that the DUVi project is complete.
Why is there complete radio silence on this issue now? I believe there is a domestic program to build a 28nm DUV machine and I believe it will succeed. But i doubt the very optimistic timetable that they can deliver on it last year or even this year.
 
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