Chinese purchase of Su-35

AssassinsMace said:

The question is what's holding up the deal from being finalized? The overall message conveyed which is also why the Western media has grabbed on to it is believing Chinese domestic fighters aren't up to par and China desperately need this fighter. When this deal was first put out by Pinkov, it was 36 Su-35s. Now it's been reduced to 24. Why is that if China needs this fighter? What's holding up the deal if China is desperate? If it were all about the engines, that would be more believable, so why don't the Russians just sell the engines if they weren't worried about China getting them with Su-35? The whole point is Russia needs to get the Su-35 sold to a foreign buyer to get the ball rolling. On top of that they're probably going to sell China an export version that is lesser to get others scared into buying the better export version. Just like with the Su-30. And didn't China get a horrible price for Su-30s? Others will need a better Su-35 to beat China's. If this is the sticking point, you can see how China is dragging this along on a fighter they don't need in order to just get the engines.

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Announcement Story said:

..an industry source told Reuters.

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Engineer said:

"Confirmed", like how Russians confirmed a contract was signed last year, as did the year before, and the year before that... If Russian confirmation was true back then, there would be no need for confirmation this week. This goes to show there is zero credibility in what the Russian said regarding the Su-35 sales to China.

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Bltizo said:

Question for everyone here, is engine thrust correlated with the electricity generated by a fighter aircraft (or I suppose, any aircraft), and is that in turn correlated with the power of a radar? Or putting it another way, is engine thrust considered a practical bottleneck for the performance of modern radars?

Because there are obviously a number of fighters with relatively low overall thrust produced by their engines which are still able to mount quite powerful AESA radars, and advancements in radar performance and the retrofit of advanced AESAs with improved performance aboard legacy fighters (such as SABR for legacy F-16s) should be mostly a result of advancements in the radar design rather than improvements in the thrust of the aircraft's powerplant.

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siegecrossbow said:

Could be efficient radar as well as power-saving measures implemented on other onboard avionics.

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b787 said:

Extract from interview to Deputy General Director of "UEC" Ilya Fedorov, the rest i leave to your imagination

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b787 said:

Do you understand that in order to generate an electromagnetic wave (radar impulse) you need to generate electricity? any radar in order to have a long range detection it needs to use the square root law, to do that the power source is developed by the engine, if China has already such engine why buy 2 billion worth just to buy 117s?

In my opinion no Chinese radar even AESA can have such range without the proper power source aka engine, Su-35 has 400 km detection range because the engines develop enough electricity to do it

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SinoSoldier said:

Supercruising ability does not linearly translate to a faster top speed.

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SinoSoldier said:

J-11D and J-16 use 140 kN engines; nothing suggests that a mere 2 kN difference will lead to an equal discrepancy, if at all, in radar power output.

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