Chinese OS and software ecosystem

BlackWindMnt

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It's a very potent zero day but since it's affect logging you can't made a clandestine attack of it.
It kept my friends who work in the JVM/java ecosystem to pull in some extra hours to mitigate damage.
Good thing i'm not in that ecosystem so i had a nice long weekend:p
 

el pueblo unido

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intense working hours that's usually 50-72 hours per week

Single player games cost way less money than MMOs. Single player games also require much less time investment than MMOs. So those two facts would mean people with low salary and little leisure time should be attracted to single player games instead, which is obviously not the case in China right now.

Also, notice that my complaint was particularly directed at the dearth of single player games on mobile. Pretty much everyone in China has access to a smartphone, so not having access to the hardware is also not the reason.

Finally, good games don't need to be AAA. In fact, most AAA games are crap. AAA refers to the development and marketing budget, not to the quality of the game.
well there brother, majority of these mmos are free to play, same as the mobile ones, they are good at manipulate the general mass into spending on cosmetic items or just down right op p2w, it is true that sp games are cheaper in actual spending, but the need for hardware, and the heavy up front cost made it seems more expensive, also online gaming has a social presence too, for example if majority of your demography play lol, you better play it too
 

Overbom

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majority of these mmos are free to play, same as the mobile ones, they are good at manipulate the general mass into spending on cosmetic items or just down right op p2w, it is true that sp games are cheaper in actual spending, but the need for hardware, and the heavy up front cost made it seems more expensive, also online gaming has a social presence too, for example if majority of your demography play lol, you better play it too
Yes but its single player games with engaging story lines that actually do cultural exports and promote Chinese culture

That's the soft power thing that people here want China to have. However, instead of having that, all we have now is garbage mutliplayer free-to-play gacha/casino games which their only purpose is to drain your wallet
 

BlackWindMnt

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Yes but its single player games with engaging story lines that actually do cultural exports and promote Chinese culture

That's the soft power thing that people here want China to have. However, instead of having that, all we have now is garbage mutliplayer free-to-play gacha/casino games which their only purpose is to drain your wallet
Could something like Tencent game pass work in China? Seems to be working great for Microsoft gamepass ultimate.
 

el pueblo unido

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Could something like Tencent game pass work in China? Seems to be working great for Microsoft gamepass ultimate.
You are saying that like tecent has any decent triple A or indie titles, I believe they do have a rip off steam for mainland markets but dear god please let's avoid talking about that thing, there are people willing to drain their kid's college fund or house mortgage to just gamble for a anime girl from a gacha game, the puny profits from gamepass is not in the eyes of the tencent higher ups, but the good thing is they don't middle with their invested oversea studios, still better than EA
 

Overbom

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Could something like Tencent game pass work in China? Seems to be working great for Microsoft gamepass ultimate.
Well to have a gamepass you need a huge diversity of games with AAA/AA/ indie games, then different categories such as strategy/action/racing/adventure/RPG etc

Basically you need a lot of games in order to grab as much of the gaming market share as possible

Then there is another issue which not many people like to talk about. Chinese authorities are painfully slow to approve games to be sold in China. This leads to long delays, and so some gaming (mostly small indie) companies do not even bothering to expand in China (although it has a huge market)

To conclude, the whole gaming ecosystem in China is rotten, top to bottom. The old dinosaurs in the propaganda department are taking their sweet time and constantly require changes and censorship which increases companies' cost. Then most of the games are free-to-play garbage casino games which people like to play

Its helpless. I don't expect any significant change to happen until after 2030.
 

BlackWindMnt

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You are saying that like tecent has any decent triple A or indie titles, I believe they do have a rip off steam for mainland markets but dear god please let's avoid talking about that thing, there are people willing to drain their kid's college fund or house mortgage to just gamble for a anime girl from a gacha game, the puny profits from gamepass is not in the eyes of the tencent higher ups, but the good thing is they don't middle with their invested oversea studios, still better than EA
That i did not know, heard it was bad but yeah this bad i never knew. You see the same shit here in the West with Cosmetics people acting as if they force you to buy everything, like i saw in the Halo community. I hardly ever care to spend money on cosmetics so its really foreign for me so i was like why are people spending hundreds of dollar on a free game.

Well to have a gamepass you need a huge diversity of games with AAA/AA/ indie games, then different categories such as strategy/action/racing/adventure/RPG etc

Basically you need a lot of games in order to grab as much of the gaming market share as possible

Then there is another issue which not many people like to talk about. Chinese authorities are painfully slow to approve games to be sold in China. This leads to long delays, and so some gaming (mostly small indie) companies do not even bothering to expand in China (although it has a huge market)

To conclude, the whole gaming ecosystem in China is rotten, top to bottom. The old dinosaurs in the propaganda department are taking their sweet time and constantly require changes and censorship which increases companies' cost. Then most of the games are free-to-play garbage casino games which people like to play

Its helpless. I don't expect any significant change to happen until after 2030.
Is that mostly for foreign games because that i did know, but for domestic games is it equally painful?
The game industry is growing in China and more and more bangers are coming out each year, where you have people go like "what thats a chinese game!!11!!"
 

el pueblo unido

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That i did not know, heard it was bad but yeah this bad i never knew. You see the same shit here in the West with Cosmetics people acting as if they force you to buy everything, like i saw in the Halo community. I hardly ever care to spend money on cosmetics so its really foreign for me so i was like why are people spending hundreds of dollar on a free game.


Is that mostly for foreign games because that i did know, but for domestic games is it equally painful?
The game industry is growing in China and more and more bangers are coming out each year, where you have people go like "what thats a chinese game!!11!!"
Yes the trend has gone up indeed recently, with many great indie games and a few major title coming up, so I do have more hopes for a growing industry in mainland, and I also believe the progress of gaming industry is based on the average income and over all development of the nation, although I don't really play many triples As now, what I actually wished to see is games made in China like dwarf fortress, or bioshock, and I am very please with the recent new indie trends like the cultivation simulator and the black myth
 

solarz

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Then there is another issue which not many people like to talk about. Chinese authorities are painfully slow to approve games to be sold in China. This leads to long delays, and so some gaming (mostly small indie) companies do not even bothering to expand in China (although it has a huge market)

Reviews are only an issue if your game contains mature imagery or subject matter. It's been hugely exaggerated in the Western media. Most of those seemingly ludicrous changes done to Western games for the Chinese market were not at the behest of the Chinese review board, but by the game development companies themselves in the hope of pre-empting any potential issues with the review. This is because those companies are simply not aware of what's acceptable and what's not for the Chinese public. I don't think domestic games have any such issue unless they really push the boundaries.

You are saying that like tecent has any decent triple A or indie titles, I believe they do have a rip off steam for mainland markets but dear god please let's avoid talking about that thing

You can still access the regular version of Steam from China, so it's a non-issue.
 

10thman

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Chinese Companies Including Tencent Initiate Open Source Operating System Community OpenCloudOS
Posted on December 24, 2021

On Wednesday, the open source operating system community OpenCloudOS was officially launched. More than 20 operating system manufacturers and users, including Tencent, PowerLeader, Inspur and OPPO, became founding members.

The operating system is the core basic software, and its importance has been recognized by the industry. However, for some manufacturers and individual users, the potential risks of the current supply chain should not be underestimated. By the end of 2021, CentOS, the mainstream operating system software in the industry, will cease being maintained, which makes a large number of users fall into security risks.

With the concept of open source gradually gaining popularity, Chinese enterprises are becoming open source contributors and promoters. Therefore, Tencent and its partners jointly initiated this OpenCloudOS.

The community is committed to building a completely neutral, fully open, safe, stable and high-performance operating system and ecosystem. Complete neutrality means that there is no manufacturer label in the community and it is not dominated by any single manufacturer. Being completely open means that Chinese and foreign operating system R&D companies can be gathered together. Community members can also make consensus decisions.

As a Chinese open source operating system community, OpenCloudOS enjoys the advantages of Tencent and many manufacturers in terms of resources, and receives support in cloud-native technologies, software and hardware, which can support all hardware platforms equally and comprehensively.

At the beginning of its establishment, OpenCloudOS decided to become a neutral community without manufacturer label, and will become a member of the Open Atom Open Source Foundation in the future. It will be hosted and supervised by the Foundation in a standard open source community mode, remaining neutral and open. The community will be jointly governed by its members.

On the technical path, OpenCloudOS hopes to adopt the joint R&D of leading operating system manufacturers. Members will ensure the security of the system and will build derivative commercial versions.

As one of the main sponsors of the OpenCloudOS community, Tencent has accumulated technology in the field of operating systems for more than 10 years.

The TencentOS Server is an operating system developed by the company itself. In 2010, Tencent decided to develop its own operating system according to its unique requirements on performance and security, because the open source operating system Tencent used in the initial stage could not meet the increasingly complex business needs. While improving the performance during the application of TencentOS, Tencent officially opened its source in 2019, and fully opened its technologies accumulated in nearly 10 years to global developers.
 
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