broadsword
Brigadier
Comparable, but reliability is the unknown.
Chinese military exports to other countries
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Comparable, but reliability is the unknown.
antiterror13
Brigadier
well, Russia has ordered some ... so should be reliable enough
antiterror13
Brigadier
Has Russia got similar Diesel engine domestically?
broadsword
Brigadier
They don't seem to have that category.
They are different class/category. CHD622V20 is in the same class as MTU16V4000M90 which is the original power plant for 21631 corvette.
Max displacement:
21631: Less than 1000 tonne
056: 1400 tonne
max continuous power rating:
CHD622V20 is 2300kw
MTU16V4000M90 is 2100kw
12PA6-STC is 3888kw
16PA6-STC is 5148kw
A background and ironic information of HND:
HND was one of the first Soviet Aided projects during the first five year plan (1950 to 1954). It was forced to continue on its own after Soviet cutting off the aid. It incorporated techs from Germany and France later, and is producing alternatives to MTU. Now Russia has to import it due to the German sanction.
The irony is that Russians/Soviets must be happy in their early investment in the 1950s, and also happy that Khrushchev failed to "kill" their own savings/investments.
A good lesson from it is that, good can turn bad, bad can turn good, nothing is certain, the essence of "Yin/Yang". Another taking is that, always leave a door open to whoever is at odd with you, today's enemy may save your life tomorrow, "不要把事做绝".
I say this in reference to the recent debate related to India and Korea (both N and S).
HND was one of the first Soviet Aided projects during the first five year plan (1950 to 1954). It was forced to continue on its own after Soviet cutting off the aid. It incorporated techs from Germany and France later, and is producing alternatives to MTU. Now Russia has to import it due to the German sanction.
The irony is that Russians/Soviets must be happy in their early investment in the 1950s, and also happy that Khrushchev failed to "kill" their own savings/investments.
A good lesson from it is that, good can turn bad, bad can turn good, nothing is certain, the essence of "Yin/Yang". Another taking is that, always leave a door open to whoever is at odd with you, today's enemy may save your life tomorrow, "不要把事做绝".
I say this in reference to the recent debate related to India and Korea (both N and S).
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Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
From Henri K blog after long spell of no order,finally the first order from Myanmar AF will soon be delivered. All of them are built in Chengdu
First JF-17 for Burma before the end of 2017?
According to local media reports, the Burmese Air Force (MAF) could receive its first JF-17fighters before the end of this year. Burmese officers confirmed the acquisition of the aircraft in November 2016, at the Zhuhai Air Show in China, while the contract was signed in 2015.
The MAF has a fleet of more than 70 combat aircraft today but apart from about 30 MiG-29and its variants, including ten that should be upgraded to the MiG-29SM standard , the rest is mostly composed of aging Chinese F-7M , FT-7 and A-5M .
The arrival of the JF-17 standard Block II, customized according to the country's specifications, will therefore allow the MAF to make a facelift and also streamline its fleet. The planes are expected to be used primarily for close air support missions, according .
The Burmese Ministry of Defense has suggested that additional devices could be considered.
The photos taken by the Chinese spoilers in Chengdu show that the aircraft registered 1704 and in color of the MAF has already entered the flight test phase as early as September this year. This means that at least four JF-17s for Burma have already been produced in China.
It is still unclear whether further production will be relocated to the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), located in Kamra, for the remainder of the contract, which involves a total of 16 aircraft at an estimated unit cost of US $ 35 million. This will depend on the ramp-up to the PAC which should reach the figure of 25 JF-17 assemblies per year.
Today more than 80 JF-17 have already joined the ranks of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) since the first introduction of the aircraft into the 26th squadron in 2010. The 100th JF-17 produced in Pakistan is expected to also get out of the PAC assembly line shortly.
The new Block II standard currently in production brings first the ability to be refueled in flight with a detachable pole. An improved new avionics suite that allows for data exchange with the ZDK-03 AWACS , a wider range of Air-Surface weapons, and electronic warfare pods have also been implemented.
It should be noted that the first refueling test of a JF-17 Block II with an IL-78 took place recently. 50 devices of this standard should be assembled to the PAC.
The flight refueling test of a JF-17 Block II has taken place recently (Image: defense.pk)
According to Khuwaja Sohail Mansoor, chairman of Pakistan's defense production standing committee, the country's arms exports in fiscal 2016-2017 reached a record $ 98.3 million, up 55 percent from the previous year. compared to 10 years ago. Pakistan, which has a 50% stake in the JF-17 program alongside China, plans to improve these results with other export contracts for the aircraft.
In addition to Nigeria, which has confirmed a first tranche of three aircraft, discussions with other countries in the Middle East and Africa are also underway. Rumors speak of a new customer with a firm order of four planes, but this has not been confirmed yet.
To be continued.
Henri K.
First JF-17 for Burma before the end of 2017?
According to local media reports, the Burmese Air Force (MAF) could receive its first JF-17fighters before the end of this year. Burmese officers confirmed the acquisition of the aircraft in November 2016, at the Zhuhai Air Show in China, while the contract was signed in 2015.
The MAF has a fleet of more than 70 combat aircraft today but apart from about 30 MiG-29and its variants, including ten that should be upgraded to the MiG-29SM standard , the rest is mostly composed of aging Chinese F-7M , FT-7 and A-5M .
The arrival of the JF-17 standard Block II, customized according to the country's specifications, will therefore allow the MAF to make a facelift and also streamline its fleet. The planes are expected to be used primarily for close air support missions, according .
The Burmese Ministry of Defense has suggested that additional devices could be considered.
The photos taken by the Chinese spoilers in Chengdu show that the aircraft registered 1704 and in color of the MAF has already entered the flight test phase as early as September this year. This means that at least four JF-17s for Burma have already been produced in China.
It is still unclear whether further production will be relocated to the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), located in Kamra, for the remainder of the contract, which involves a total of 16 aircraft at an estimated unit cost of US $ 35 million. This will depend on the ramp-up to the PAC which should reach the figure of 25 JF-17 assemblies per year.
Today more than 80 JF-17 have already joined the ranks of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) since the first introduction of the aircraft into the 26th squadron in 2010. The 100th JF-17 produced in Pakistan is expected to also get out of the PAC assembly line shortly.
The new Block II standard currently in production brings first the ability to be refueled in flight with a detachable pole. An improved new avionics suite that allows for data exchange with the ZDK-03 AWACS , a wider range of Air-Surface weapons, and electronic warfare pods have also been implemented.
It should be noted that the first refueling test of a JF-17 Block II with an IL-78 took place recently. 50 devices of this standard should be assembled to the PAC.
The flight refueling test of a JF-17 Block II has taken place recently (Image: defense.pk)
According to Khuwaja Sohail Mansoor, chairman of Pakistan's defense production standing committee, the country's arms exports in fiscal 2016-2017 reached a record $ 98.3 million, up 55 percent from the previous year. compared to 10 years ago. Pakistan, which has a 50% stake in the JF-17 program alongside China, plans to improve these results with other export contracts for the aircraft.
In addition to Nigeria, which has confirmed a first tranche of three aircraft, discussions with other countries in the Middle East and Africa are also underway. Rumors speak of a new customer with a firm order of four planes, but this has not been confirmed yet.
To be continued.
Henri K.
