Chinese infantry fighting vehicles

supercat

supercat

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China's future light tactical vehicles will be based on the Dongfeng Mengshi (Warrior) 3rd generation B platform (I have no idea what the A platform is, or if there is a C platform).

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All variants are armor protected. Of these, CSK181, CSK182, and CSZ181 are personal carriers.

CSK182 (4x4, 6 passengers):
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Lucas234

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supercat said:
China's future light tactical vehicles will be based on the Dongfeng Mengshi (Warrior) 3rd generation B platform (I have no idea what the A platform is, or if there is a C platform).
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From what I know from several Chinese Twitter accounts, I dare to guess that the A and B letters mean references to two versions with different rear doors types, as you mentioned, i.e. "classic" car doors and "clam-shell" (Russian BTR-like) doors. At least there is a source claiming that the CSK181A has got "classic" doors, while the CSK181B is the one with "clam-shell" doors.

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supercat

supercat

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As far as I know, China has 2 types of MRAP in service, VP11 and CS/VP3. VP11 is the light version and CS/VP3 is the heavy version.

VP11 is based on the Protector MRAP from a bankrupted U.S. company called Protected Vehicles Inc.

Protector MRAP:
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There are 2 variants of VP11. BK1150 is the variant with regular wheel base, and BK1111A is the one with a long wheel base.

VP11, BK1150 (4x4 6 passengers):
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Level of bulletproof to NATO ammunition:
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supercat

supercat

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China's heavy MRAP, CS/VP3, was co-developed with the South African company Mobile Land Systems. CS/VP3 were exported to Nigeria and Kenya. The pictures below demonstrate Mobile Land Systems' CAPRIVI MK1, which strongly resembles China's CS/VP3:
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CS/VP3:
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TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

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supercat said:
Level of bulletproof to NATO ammunition
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Bulletproof is a terrible phrase. Nothing made short of Superman is ever bulletproof. Bullet resistant is more appropriate. In this case they were indicating the windows, Hit it with a M2 BMG round game over, A Couple .338 Rounds done. Empty a 100 round belt of 7.62 or a full 200 round belt of 5.56x45mm into the windscreen and it will break long before the last round. That’s how transparent armor works layers that are sacrificed to buy time to get the vehicle out of the hot zone.
 
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Builder

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That’s how transparent armor works layers that are sacrificed to buy time to get the vehicle out of the hot zone.
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Is this only applicable to transparent armor or to armor in general?
Let's say a lightly armored vehicle?
 
The Observer

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Builder said:
That’s how transparent armor works layers that are sacrificed to buy time to get the vehicle out of the hot zone.
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Is this only applicable to transparent armor or to armor in general?
Let's say a lightly armored vehicle?
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Mostly transparent armor. Ceramic armor might also have similar vulnerabilities but to a lesser degree. IMO metal-based armor is the most resilient to the "mass of bullets" tactic.
 
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