bladerunner
Banned Idiot
What influence do these voices have? Most likely very little if any, so theres nothing to worry about is there?
Chinese fishermen
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aquauant
Junior Member
Police shooting the engine in self defence? Yes, I dont know much about Palau law. Maybe they can shoot at boat even it poses no danger to the police. But I heard some navy shoots at the bow to make warning or like Japanese coast guard they ram your boat. Anyway, in the end, a person died only because his boat is trespassing or illegal fishing. Well, if other people see this is ok, I guess this is the way it is. Maybe we can do the same to other countries' fishing boats.
" I'm Chinese BTW, and we Chinese are the biggest bunch of generalizers there are. " Really? What kind of Chinese are you anyway? I was born and live in CHina. I have never heard of Chinese being the biggest bunch of generalizers. No foreign friends or research articles that I know have identified this trace. Do you have research back it up? Stereotype by some people does exist, such as racism, laziness .... But I dont think any person can say the whole race is the biggest whatever. Some Americans are hardworking but some are lazy. Some Shanghaiese are smart but some are dumb. Some Hkers are racists and some are not. the list goes on. But maybe you have done extensive research about Chinese race that we are not aware of. Show it.
"When Westerners want to learn more about a person, the first question they ask is, "What do you do?". In China, that's the second question they ask. The first question the Chinese ask is, "Where are you from?". Really? I never heard of us consistently asking people where you are from in the first question. But I have heard American asking me where I am from. Could you point me to research source because it contradicts what I have experienced. Maybe most Chinese do ask people where you are from in the first question.
I guess you are a Chinese national holding a chinese national passport living in western land on a visa. Maybe you should go back where you come from and know the place and people again, instead on relying on stereotyping and generalization of your own people.
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airsuperiority
Captain
voices? clarify please.
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actually to be honest, i think we chinese can get along with most people easily..but it still doesn't mean we are aware of the technical components of racisms or generalizations. most really dont give a shit about it. calling someone gwai-lo in contemporary meaning is more of really referring to a white person instead of intended racism; however the truth is, it can still be considered racist.
as for the incidents, i just noticed there's been many high-profile cases of these ships going into more violent endings..and none of these do good for china. i really don't think all the incidents would share the nature where law enforcement officials choose to act in such a method first. although i doubt maritime law enforcement will be nice and polite, i still doubt the law enforcement will resort to ramming boats and looking at potential damages to their hardware in the beginning. solarz you're very correct that they won't give a fuck..but same logic of that, that's how the world becomes a worse place.
本報綜合報道】廣州色狼膽大包天！一名衣着單薄的妙齡女郎，前晚搭巴士返家途中趴在前椅後背睡着，車上一名男乘客居然站着自瀆，然後向該女事主的裸露手臂射精。事主驚醒並高聲求救，但全車五十多名乘客和司機視若無睹，讓色狼逃去。
事主白小姐向當地電視台表示，前晚她上車後因疲憊睡着。「我意識當中好像有甚麼異物黏糊糊的東西，在我手臂上拚命的摩擦。」白驚醒後發現，其手臂、衣服、大腿都是精液。
白隨即抓住站在身邊的男子，當時對方褲子的拉鏈尚未及拉上。雖然車上擠滿乘客，但白高呼「捉色狼」求助時，乘客們居然紛紛躲開。白獨力和色狼扭打，並向司機求助，但是司機反而說：「不要吵啊！」最後色狼在巴士停站的時候，打傷白的手臂，掙脫後落車逃之夭夭。
穗司機：我為甚麼要幫你？
白事後斥責司機縱放色狼，不料司機理直氣壯地回應說：「全車五六十人都不幫你，我為甚麼要幫你？」白雖已報警，但估計色狼落網機會不大。她又慨嘆：「全車五、六十人都在的，但是沒有一個人站出來，我覺得很心寒。」
shit like these is one of reasons why China/ we Chinese today don't get proper respect. while a great deal of China antagonism from political level is biased and intentional, on the other hand, people like these (in this type of cases) gives Chinese a bad name. the good apples like most of us work hard to demonstrate a good image (parts of how the model minority reputation was built.. through hard work and stuff)..but these people will be the ones undermining it.
it's quite the same: so far there's been 2 cases of campus shootings by koreans/asians. if this keeps up, sooner or later we will get stereotyped as gun-welding maniac. even though it's indeed that bigots are the ones who will choose to be ignorant, but again, most people are very oblivious..
This is quite an interesting one.
Obviously most of the time Chinese Fishermen will be Chinese Fishermen, but this one has all the ingredients of something far more conspiratorial.
The long and time honoured tradition of Intelligence Organisations operating "Trawlers" off sensitive coasts
The unusually extreme level of violence and the loss of life (or at least causalities) on both sides
The very strategic position of Palau, sitting as it does on almost a pivotal point for the entire Pacific Archipelago beyond the second Island Chain.
One to watch perhaps?
Obviously most of the time Chinese Fishermen will be Chinese Fishermen, but this one has all the ingredients of something far more conspiratorial.
The long and time honoured tradition of Intelligence Organisations operating "Trawlers" off sensitive coasts
The unusually extreme level of violence and the loss of life (or at least causalities) on both sides
The very strategic position of Palau, sitting as it does on almost a pivotal point for the entire Pacific Archipelago beyond the second Island Chain.
One to watch perhaps?
solarz
Brigadier
LOL, stop being such a hypocrite.
In case you don't even realize it, the statement:
"We Chinese just dont have this ability (to make generalizations)"
is just as big a generalization as
"we Chinese are the biggest bunch of generalizers there are".
So really, we have two Chinese, you and me, making big generalizations, which kind of proves my point. Except I'm aware of what I'm doing, and you're not.
One of the signs that you've got nothing to back up your argument on an internet forum is when you ignore all arguments that you can't respond to and try to pick bones in an egg.
Why don't you tell me that Chinese don't stereotype Northerners and Southerners, Shanghainese and Beijingers, Rural-folk and City-folk, HKers and Mainlanders, etc.?
How can you have any kind of perspective when you've never experienced anything different? The fact that I live in a Western Culture makes me all the more aware of the differences and unique characteristics of Chinese culture.
It is said that the most patriotic Chinese are those who live abroad.
OK ladies and gents can we concentrate on the topic and not worry who is or is not more/better Chinese than the rest.
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Journalists , Commentaters in the various foundations offering opinion pieces Ret Cols ,Admirals etc.
Must say Sampan has introduced a very interesting take on things
airsuperiority
Captain
actually media can play a huge chip in influencing bilateral relationship sometimes.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
The news media likes to brag they're the fourth branch of government. A branch that has no checks and balances and the only oversight has a conflict of interests.
Red___Sword
Junior Member
solarz, aquauant, please, knowing what's foundamental point of your posts, allow me to tell you both that each of the other people do not intend to paint the Chinese race, nor nation, as some kind of evil centre in an underhanded way, case close man.
In respons to "The Capitalist"'s conspiratorial point of view at #14, it's an interesting point of view, but I would like to report that on Chinese BBS, both Chinese home grow China-basher, those who can't wait to see China collaps and is far more enthusiasm to find out another court evidence that the evil China is conducting another evil deed...
and those Chinese home grow fan boy, those who can't wait to see China rules everything under the sky and is far more enthusiasm to find out another evidence that the godlike China has put another step to that goal...
This two kind of people, both believing there is more conspiratorial things happening behind the newspaper.
My point is, the third kind of people, the professionals, please don't join them.
In respons to "The Capitalist"'s conspiratorial point of view at #14, it's an interesting point of view, but I would like to report that on Chinese BBS, both Chinese home grow China-basher, those who can't wait to see China collaps and is far more enthusiasm to find out another court evidence that the evil China is conducting another evil deed...
and those Chinese home grow fan boy, those who can't wait to see China rules everything under the sky and is far more enthusiasm to find out another evidence that the godlike China has put another step to that goal...
This two kind of people, both believing there is more conspiratorial things happening behind the newspaper.
My point is, the third kind of people, the professionals, please don't join them.