Chinese Engine Development

The Observer

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Maybe at that point it's easier to just try supersized hybrid for mainstream airliner. We already see China showing mockup/prototype of small turbine hybrid, now it's time to make it larger & more powerful.

Considering other hybrid vehicles have shown decent efficiency gains from the switch, planes might get the extra efficiency they have always chased that way too.
 

qwerty3173

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Speaking of future efficiency boosts, after tailless wingforms mature enough, in the next decade there is the real possibility of tailless flying wing passenger aircraft that maximizes lift and minimizes drag by principle. Currently the safety of these wingforms are still questionable compared to traditional swept wing aircraft but this will soon change with the mass of new flight data coming in through military programs.
 

Tomboy

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Speaking of future efficiency boosts, after tailless wingforms mature enough, in the next decade there is the real possibility of tailless flying wing passenger aircraft that maximizes lift and minimizes drag by principle. Currently the safety of these wingforms are still questionable compared to traditional swept wing aircraft but this will soon change with the mass of new flight data coming in through military programs.
It's mainly flying wings or BWB have vastly different logistic footprint to normal passenger aircraft and will basically require a complete overhaul of airport facilities. Adoption of these designs in the near future is unlikely unless absolutely required.
 

_killuminati_

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For the case of Y-30 and re-engine of the KJ-600 and AG600M - It's not so much about speed, but much more about the weight of the aircraft.

A more powerful turboprop engine would deliver more shaft power to drive the propellers, meaning greater amount of thrust can be produced to drive the aircraft forward per engine. This means that more powerful turboprop engines enable heavier aircrafts to be propelled into the air.

This is crucial for the case of Y-30, if significant step-ups in overall size, cargo hold size and payload capacity from the Y-8/9 are to be expected.

That's also why the C-130J with ~70 tons of MTOW requires 4x ~3500kW turboprop engines, whereas the A400M with ~141 tons of MTOW requires 4x ~8200kW turboprop engines, i.e. more than twice the amount of power per engine for about twice the MTOW.

Apart from that, there's also the case of enhancing hot-and-high and/or short field takeoff and climb performances with more powerful turboprop engines. This is similarly important for the PLAAF with regards to operations on the Xizang Plateau and the South China Sea islands (and also for the case of the PLAN, should they need the KJ-600s to operate from the STOBAR twins.)

So, yes - 5000kW turboprop engine is a real necessity.
I reckon this increase may also contribute to better performance metrics for the electronics (radar, EW, etc), unless they were already performing at their peak on the 3800kw.
 

by78

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More images from the Changchun Airshow...

F406, a 600-kgf turbofan for UAVs:
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AEF100 turbofan:
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