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Chongqing-based a private company TWR-Engine has made breakthrough in the rotating detonation engine (RDE) ..


A Chinese engineering company says it has completed ground-testing of a prototype engine that it hopes will one day achieve hypersonic speeds with far better fuel efficiency than rocket or jet engines.

Chongqing-based TWR-Engine is one of the few private enterprises in China working in the field and is trying to develop a revolutionary form of technology known as the rotating detonation engine (RDE).

Commercial and military scientists in China and the United States are racing to perfect the RDE, which they hope will allow them to reach speeds of Mach 5 or beyond.

“The RDE is twice as efficient as turbo engines. The thrust-to-weight ratio of RDE can reach 20, while the F119 engine on the US F-22 fighter jet merely reaches 11”, said Hu Xing, an engineer from the company.

For now, the technology has potential commercial applications such as use in small civilian drones and emergency rescue, according to Hu.

In the long run, the RDE will find important uses in aerospace travel thanks to its high efficiency,” he added.

TWR’s prototype generates power through a series of rotating explosions inside a chamber. In theory the technology should be more efficient than existing engines because it produces a higher thrust from a smaller engine with a simpler structure.
In China such technology is usually the preserve of defence contractors or big universities, but Hu said researchers in the private sector have some advantages such as more freedom to experiment.

But they lack stable financial support, and their research needs a lot of investment.

“It’s hard to maintain stable combustion with a frequency of thousands of times per second. There is a high demand for material to undertake the combustion shock wave, and such materials are always expensive,” said Hu.

But he said the team is full of confidence after completing ground tests last week, having carried out more than 30 tests on a fixed rail glider since December.

The team is now planning to carry out an aerial flight test by the end of this year with the eventual goal of mass-producing RDEs.
“We have faith in that. We have fewer limitations and a strong theoretical foundation. The talented team gives us solid support,” said Hu.

TWR-Engine – whose name in English and Chinese is an acronym for thrust-to-weight ratio – was established in 2018.
“The team consists of talents from all relevant areas. We have engineers majoring in aircraft engines and missile experts from the army. Sixty per cent of team members hold a PhD”, said Hu.

Other Chinese scientists working on RDE technology include a team from Tsinghua University that conducted a test flight earlier this year.

In a 2020 paper published in domestic journal Transactions on Aerospace Research, the project’s lead researcher Wang Bing and his team wrote: “Detonation is a promising combustion mode to improve engine performance, increase combustion efficiency, reduce emissions, and enhance thermal cycle efficiency.”

Meanwhile, US scientists are also working on similar prototypes, including a collaboration between the Air Force Research Laboratory and Pratt & Whitney.

“It’s a complicated race, but we have a chance of winning,” said Hu.

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latenlazy

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That entire bit seems to be way out there. 13t thrust would be 1/3 more than what I expect WS-21 to be. I don't see how that's possible. I think 11t with afterburner and 7t with dry thrust would already be outstanding.
If it’s 11t with AB it will probably be closer to 8-9t with dry, depending on bypass ratio. The EJ200 had an upgrade in the pipeline for 90t dry and 120t wet.
 

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If it’s 11t with AB it will probably be closer to 8-9t with dry, depending on bypass ratio. The EJ200 had an upgrade in the pipeline for 90t dry and 120t wet.
F414 has 57,8 kN dry thrust and 97.9 kN wet.
RD-33 is at 50 kN dry thrust and 81.3 kN wet.
M88-2 is at 50 kN dry and 75 wet
So anywhere from high 50s to low 70s seem possible.
 

latenlazy

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F414 has 57,8 kN dry thrust and 97.9 kN wet.
RD-33 is at 50 kN dry thrust and 81.3 kN wet.
M88-2 is at 50 kN dry and 75 wet
So anywhere from high 50s to low 70s seem possible.
F414 is a half generation ahead of the PW100 in technology. EJ200 is a full generation ahead of the F100, so an uprated EJ200 should be a full generation ahead of the F414. The WS-19 will be a downscaled WS-15 core. The WS13E/WS-21 is the proper technological comparison to the F414.
 

latenlazy

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14 tons is around what WS-10C generates. If you believe that I've got a bridge to sell to you.
And the F135 generates 180 tons. 30% increase across generation comparisons. If an improved F414 can generate 90 tons of wet, an improved EJ200 generating 30% more than that, 120 tons, is not some technical improbability. The F414 is not at the same technology level as the EJ200. It was chosen as a quick off the shelf solution from mature technologies.
 

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F414 is a half generation ahead of the PW100 in technology. EJ200 is a full generation ahead of the F100, so an uprated EJ200 should be a full generation ahead of the F414. The WS-19 will be a downscaled WS-15 core. The WS13E/WS-21 is the proper technological comparison to the F414.
I think you are missing the point. I listed those to show the ratio of dry to wet thrust. I'd be very surprised to see WS-19 dry thrust being 75% of wet thrust.
 

latenlazy

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I think you are missing the point. I listed those to show the ratio of dry to wet thrust. I'd be very surprised to see WS-19 dry thrust being 75% of wet thrust.
Ah. Well we’ll see. I’m just noting that 90 dry 120 wet is not out of the picture. My broader point is just that the F414 isn’t really the right point of comparison here.
 

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