Chinese Economics Thread

manqiangrexue

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Spain is the first place? or What place is China when it comes to tourism ranking
For some reason, they don't have data on China so if you just insert it here, we are third, ahead of the US (73M), behind Spain (94M) with France (102M) in the lead. (Data is 2024 so this is actually before the US went batshit crazy.) Don't know what other countries are unlisted and if they are significant.
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I'm not sure what is happening here but they mirror the data from above, fail to add China, but add China to the Asia chart lower in the page. It shows China at 65M in 2024 but Hong Kong was counted separately at 45M so... we're already top over France?
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For some reason, they don't have data on China so if you just insert it here, we are third, ahead of the US (73M), behind Spain (94M) with France (102M) in the lead. (Data is 2024 so this is actually before the US went batshit crazy.) Don't know what other countries are unlisted and if they are significant.
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I'm not sure what is happening here but they mirror the data from above, fail to add China, but add China to the Asia chart lower in the page. It shows China at 65M in 2024 but Hong Kong was counted separately at 45M so... we're already top over France?
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keep in mind that counting China and Hong Kong separately means that there is a lot of mainland -> HK and HK -> mainland visitors that probably shouldn't be counted if we really want to know how many people are visiting China.
 

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screenshot_20260204_155459.pngChina, Hong Kong, and Macau had 7.95 million births in 2025, which was about 200,000 more than the entire core Anglosphere (the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand), the rest of the Germanic linguistic zone (Scandinavia and Central Europe), the rest of developed East Asia (Japan and Three of the Four Asian Tigers, excluding Hong Kong), and Israel.

Almost none of China's births were to foreign born parents, compared to up to 30% for some of these countries, especially in Europe. For example, British whites are now only about 53% of British births, and non-whites are over a third. China's falling birth rate is definitely a crisis that needs a strong and sustained policy response, but China is not going away any time soon.
 
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