Chinese Economics Thread

supercat

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China ended 2025 with a foreign exchange reserve of $3.3579 trillion, by far the largest in the world - about 2.5 times more than the world's second largest forex reserve holder, Japan. Less than $800 billion of China's forex reserve are US Treasuries. At the end of 2025, China's gold reserve is approx.2,389 tons. China should convert its holding of US Treasuries into gold, as much as possible.
 

tphuang

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Reminder the contrary to the Armchair QBs online, there is plenty of oil resource globally & more Venezuelan oil on the market will only lower oil prices and benefit the world's largest importer of oil.

But longer term, I think oil demand will continue to drop in China due to energy security reasons.
 

tphuang

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Again, Mark Carney is visiting next week. Oil has to be on top of the list.


Canadian oil is the best replacement for Venezuelan oil.

Aside from that, China imports a lot of Gold and Copper from China. Uranium and Timber would work too. In exchange for dropping EV tariffs, China will drop all the canola related retaliations.
 

PiSigma

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Again, Mark Carney is visiting next week. Oil has to be on top of the list.


Canadian oil is the best replacement for Venezuelan oil.

Aside from that, China imports a lot of Gold and Copper from China. Uranium and Timber would work too. In exchange for dropping EV tariffs, China will drop all the canola related retaliations.
I highly doubt Carney will drop EV tariffs to please the Prairie provinces. The liberals have no seats in Alberta or Saskatchewan and their base is in Ontario where can manufacturers are.

Unless the people in central Canada can be convinced chinese ev won't completed kill their livelihood along with trump, it will be for Carney to convince his base.
 

SanWenYu

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Again, Mark Carney is visiting next week. Oil has to be on top of the list.


Canadian oil is the best replacement for Venezuelan oil.

Aside from that, China imports a lot of Gold and Copper from China. Uranium and Timber would work too. In exchange for dropping EV tariffs, China will drop all the canola related retaliations.
It won't be easy for Carney to drop the EV tariffs. The Ontario premier Ford has repeatedly warned Carney to not do it. This speaks loudly that the tariffs on Chinese EVs have nothing to do the NatSec crap raised by the Trudeau government. It is about protectionism from day one in addition to trying to appease the US.

How much Carney can get from his trip remains to be seen.
 

jli88

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I just calculated, in the recent years (from 21 onwards) US has been growing at much faster pace nominally than China, while China has been growing at almost 2x the pace in real terms.

This means that in effect, due to deflation, Chinese currency should increase in value, when on the other hand it has decreased in value overall from 21 to now.

Unless there's a sustained appreciation in Chinese currency, I don't think China is on track to match US GDP in nominal market exchange rate equivalents.

I have no clue why there is so much resistance to letting the Chinese currency rise.
 

manqiangrexue

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I just calculated, in the recent years (from 21 onwards) US has been growing at much faster pace nominally than China, while China has been growing at almost 2x the pace in real terms.

This means that in effect, due to deflation, Chinese currency should increase in value, when on the other hand it has decreased in value overall from 21 to now.

Unless there's a sustained appreciation in Chinese currency, I don't think China is on track to match US GDP in nominal market exchange rate equivalents.

I have no clue why there is so much resistance to letting the Chinese currency rise.
Chinese culture likes to hide strength and keep confidence within while American culture aims to puff itself up like the Wizard of Oz. They help each other in that sense.
 
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