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Wrought

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Long overdue law for personal bankruptcy will reduce risks for entrepreneurs.

In early September, the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress began deliberations on amending the country's corporate bankruptcy law. One proposal would create a liquidation provision for owners who are jointly and severally liable for the total debts of bankrupt companies. The government wants input from the business community, aiming for swift enactment. Though a personal bankruptcy system has been introduced in select regions like the city of Shenzhen, this would be the first nationwide system.

When Chinese financial institutions lend money to startups and other small businesses, they usually hold individual owners jointly and severally liable. China's corporate bankruptcy law, enacted in 2007, applies only to corporations. Entrepreneurs whose businesses failed have been left responsible for huge debts they could not pay off, making it difficult for them to start new businesses.

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Long overdue law for personal bankruptcy will reduce risks for entrepreneurs.



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Still, “entrepreneurs” who tried to become too big to fail to get the state to subsidies their business as was the case with Evergrande, should still be liable for the debts incurred. It was just for the state to force the head of ever grande to sell his personal assets to make up for the shortfall and complete the homes already bought and paid for
 

Wrought

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Some good news from Mexico, which has delayed its new tariffs pending discussions. Revisions are likely to lower the initially proposed rates.

MEXICO CITY, Oct 9 (Reuters) - Mexico's Congress will hold off approving proposed tariff hikes on nearly 1,500 products from China and other Asian countries while Mexico holds talks with those countries and considers changes to the proposal, President Claudia Sheinbaum said on Thursday. Sheinbaum sent the proposal - which seeks to increase tariffs by up to 50% on cars, textiles, clothing, plastics, steel, and other products - in early September to the lower house of Congress, where her Morena Party holds a large majority.

Her comments came a day after Ricardo Monreal, leader of Morena in the Chamber of Deputies, told reporters that Congress would "pause" the proposal for now and pick it up again at the end of November. “We are reviewing the proposal very seriously,” he said. Morena legislators, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told Reuters the tariffs would not be approved by Congress in their current form and that the plan would likely have to be softened.

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Spending increased 15% during the holidays of National Day and Mid-Autumn Festival.
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Penn World Tables now uses China's official GDP data instead of Harry Wu's estimation. Wu's estimation implies that China's economy grew 50 times since 1952, while the official data indicate a growth of 150 times since 1952 - huge difference. Should Michael Pettis and his ilks change their calculations too? They are the ones who used Wu's data to gauge China's GDP and total factor productivity (TFP) growth.

The way Harry Wu underestimates China's GDP and TFP growth reminds Glenn of the way Zhao Jian dismisses China's HSR.
 

N00B

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Penn World Tables now uses China's official GDP data instead of Harry Wu's estimation. Wu's estimation implies that China's economy grew 50 times since 1952, while the official data indicate a growth of 150 times since 1952 - huge difference. Should Michael Pettis and his ilks change their calculations too? They are the ones who used Wu's data to gauge China's GDP and total factor productivity (TFP) growth.

Bad data source aside, the fundamental problem with people like Pettis is not that all of his (economists in general) theories and conclusions are wrong per se, it's just that they are trivial (in a mathematical sense). Yes, China will eventually reach a point where building any more HSR would be a net negative. But saying that is same as saying 'Drive carefully'. Ya, you should, but it doesn't really tell you anything.

The real challenge is predicting, reasonably close, when that point will come. Michael Pettis once considered that China has already built all the HSR it needs, and should stop building more. When did he write this?
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Same with his emphasis on consumption. Yes, any country needs to boost domestic consumption to lock in/sustain deep economic growth. At what point in time should the policy change happen? Your guess is as good as mine as his.

The collapse of the Brazilian growth miracle (LATAM in general) in the 1980s disillusioned a whole bunch of economists about industrial policy/developmentalism. Pettis is one of them. The problem is, that they haven't come up with any proven alternative either.
 
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