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Marx's theory still shines with truth: Xi
Source: Xinhua| 2018-05-04 10:12:06
[this post is just a rebuttal; the context is my comment on
#9061 Hendrik_2000, Yesterday at 7:44 PM]
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Marx's theory still shines with truth: Xi
Source: Xinhua| 2018-05-04 10:12:06
[this post is just a rebuttal; the context is my comment on
#9061 Hendrik_2000, Yesterday at 7:44 PM]
Actually if you watched the 200th anniversary of Marx's birth conference you will know that president Xi's speech was extremely sparse on Marxist theory. It was half a speech praising Marx's historical impact and half a speech justifying that socialism with Chinese characteristics is the correct development path for China. In short the conference was all about taking existing political and economic decisions and pretending that these policies where somehow Marxist. So no, China is not a Marxist state, just a state with some Marxist aesthetics.
That is too far off. You think that pretending is going to work? To be able to gather all CCP's members and the citizens around a pretender (a fake)? That has never worked in the history of mankind, and certainly CCP is not doing that.
More importantly, spending half of his time on praising Marx is sparse on commitment to Marxism? Isn't the historical impact the foundation of shaping what CCP and PRC really is? By equating "impact" with "sparse", you are suggesting that CCP is de-Marxing. If CCP is deMarxing, why would its head praising it on the anniversary, wasting half of his time? Shouldn't he downplaying the "impact" by not saying much of it? A true pretender would do so, at least.
Like it or not, China is a Communist ruling state with Marxism being enshrined in the constitution of PRC and CCP. What China is not is the kind of Marxism that you have identified based on the outdated understanding, which is the Marxism of USSR and pre-1980 CCP.
Remember, CCP once called USSR a pretending Communist (revisionist in pollical terms), betraying Marx and Lenin. USSR returned the same denunciation on CCP too. Communists in Western world called both CCP and Soviet Communists fake/pretenders (radicals and revisionists). This is to show, definition is all based on individual interpretations, nobody can claim being the right and true. If one call the other being pretender/untrue/fake according to one's own interpretation, one would be acting in the same way as the religious radicals present and past.
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Now I understand what you were trying to say. But your style of posting is confusing in that, you don't write things in a formatted organized manner, replying with raw material without clearly stating your opinion in your own word and explaining the logic behind it. Sometimes, that gives the opposite impression to others....
Marx's theory still shines with truth: Xi
Source: Xinhua| 2018-05-04 10:12:06
[this post is just a rebuttal; the context is my comment on
#9061 Hendrik_2000, Yesterday at 7:44 PM]
Jura The idiot
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dragoooons
I disagree, in fact I've read also some political articles at
(which is the sight I regularly check)
and (of course I wouldn't repost those articles)
LOL based on my rusting knowledge of Communistic ideology
I think the CPC:
- didn't drop 'leading role of the Party in country';
- didn't drop 'dictatorship of the Proletariat';
so? so the CPC is a Marxist-Leninist Party as far as I can tell, and with its almost one-hundred million members, there's much more to the story than your "Marxist aesthetics"
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Exactly France is probably more socialist than China. Private company now form around 40 to 50% of the total capital in China and increasing with every year.
China is no more socialist than France. Of course He has to pay lip service to Marx. You don't want to rock the boat.
China is now authoritarian state with mix economy pretending to be Marxist state!
Equation
Lieutenant General
Whatever you want to call China, it's political leaders are doing a far better job in uplifting 800 million out of poverty and another several hundred million into up middle class than any other government or "god" out there. This kind of achievement has never been done in the history of man kind and that's a fact. Good leaders and government works for the people and protects the people from foreign invaders and threats.
antiterror13
Brigadier
Like Deng once said "It doesn't matter whether a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice"
and the "mice" here is poverty .. and at the same time is wealth
I have been to many countries ... I have to say that Singapore is no much less authoritarian than China, especially when Singapore was under LKY .. the same thing in many countries in Asia, South America or Africa and some European countries as well
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
I don't make value judgement whether authoritarian is good or bad I just stated the fact Here is the definition of Authoritarianism
Authoritarianism is a form of characterized by strong central power and limited .
Yes Singapore is not full democracy is closer to Authoritarian government no doubt about But it bring relative prosperity to the people. The same with China
Authoritarianism is a form of characterized by strong central power and limited .
Yes Singapore is not full democracy is closer to Authoritarian government no doubt about But it bring relative prosperity to the people. The same with China
antiterror13
Brigadier
well Singapore is one of the richest country in the world .. and extremely safe country ... I would walk in Singapore anywhere anytime without worrying of any crimes ... somewhat similar in China. Try one in NY or Paris ... good luck with that