Chinese Economics Thread

azesus

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Just another inconvenient fact ignored by those who peddle the democracy propaganda.
Because majority of people are too selfish stupid to understand macro economics, analogy to a sports game people think they scored because they self assume they are great scorer but they ignored the fact they got great leaders making great passes
 

solarz

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Toilet revolution in China . The prez himself stress the importance of clean toilet specially in the country side. Once they do that it mark China entry into developed world Plan afoot to install 68000 new toilet country wide

LOL, I remember when you had to pay to use public toilets in China. Strangely, in Paris, you still do!

Anyway, I have a honed method for public toilet hunting when I go to China: hotels, fast food restaurants, and malls, in that order of priority.

I actually prefer the squat toilets, since you're not touching anything, it's more hygienic. (Assuming you don't accidentally step in the bowl or crap on your shoes!)

I've never really seen any toilets without stalls, unless the urinals count.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Russia-China border where once 2 standing army staring at each other and fighting actually occur, now it is the scene of brisk commerce benefiting both side
People get to know each other better by visiting, intermingle and trade. Excellent this is what a border should be
 

AssassinsMace

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Well in the US there are problems when it comes public toilets in the cities. They're a mess. In Berkeley I was waiting in line in a public restroom and the floor was literally covered in urine. Then I saw why. A homeless man came in and just urinated on the floor in a corner. I think the large majority of public restrooms I've come across have some sort of vandalism and a lot being the stall walls being pulled out of the restroom walls. Those nice toilets you see in China in those videos wouldn't survive public use in the US.
 

Equation

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China Pushing Billions Into Iranian Economy as Western Firms Stall



ROME/ANKARA (Reuters) - China is financing billions of dollars worth of Chinese-led projects in Iran, making deep inroads into the economy while European competitors struggle to find banks willing to fund their ambitions, Iranian government and industry officials said.

Freed from crippling nuclear sanctions two years ago, Iran is drawing unprecedented Chinese funding for everything from railways to hospitals, they said. State-owned investment arm CITIC Group recently established a $10 billion credit line and China Development Bank is considering $15 billion more.

"They (Western firms) had better come quickly to Iran otherwise China will take over," said Ferial Mostofi, head of the Iran Chamber of Commerce's investment commission, speaking on the sidelines of an Iran-Italy investment meeting in Rome.

The Chinese funding, by far the largest statement of investment intent of any country in Iran, is in stark contrast with the drought facing Western investors since U.S. President Donald Trump disavowed the 2015 pact agreed by major powers, raising the threat sanctions could be reimposed.


Iranian officials say the deals are part of Beijing's $124 billion Belt and Road initiative, which aims to build new infrastructure - from highways and railways to ports and power plants - between China and Europe to pave the way for an expansion of trade.

A source in China familiar with the CITIC credit line, which was agreed in September, called it "an agreement of strategic intent". The source declined to give details on projects to be financed, but Iranian media reports have said they would include water management, energy, environment and transport projects.

An Iranian central bank source said loans under the credit line would be primarily extended in euros and yuan.


The China Development Bank signed a memorandum of understanding for $15 billion, Iranian state news agency IRNA said on Sept. 15.

The bank itself declined to comment, in line with many foreign investors and banks, including from China, who were reluctant to discuss their activities in Iran for this story. The web sites of banks and companies often carry little or no information on their Iran operations.

POWERHOUSE

With a population of 80 million and a large, sophisticated middle class, Iran has the potential to be a regional economic powerhouse. But with the risk of sanctions hanging in the air, more and more foreign investors want Tehran to issue sovereign guarantees to protect them in case the projects are halted.

Economic ties between Iran and Italy, its biggest European trade partner, have been affected.

Italy's state-owned rail company, Ferrovie dello Stato, is a consultant in the building of a 415-km (260-mile) high-speed north-south rail line between Tehran to Isfahan via Qom by state-owned China Railway Engineering Corp.

The Italian firm is separately contracted to build a line from Qom west to Arak, but it needs 1.2 billion euros in financing. Though backed by the state's export insurance agency, it says it needs a sovereign guarantee.

"We are finalizing the negotiations and we are optimistic about moving forward," said Riccardo Monti, chairman of Italferr, the state firm's engineering unit, adding that the financing should be finalised by March next year.

Prime Minister Matteo Renzi's promise in Tehran last year to oil the wheels of trade with a 4 billion euro credit line from Italy's state investment vehicle is effectively dead, a source in Italy familiar with the matter said.


Cassa Depositi e Prestiti (CDP) risked losing the confidence of its many U.S. bond-holders who could sell down their holdings if the credit line went ahead, the source said.

A few European banks have deepened trade ties with Iran this year -- Austria's Oberbankinked a financing deal with Iran in September.

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manqiangrexue

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US seeks to deny China market economy status in WTO
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The US opposition to China’s efforts to be recognised as a market economy in the WTO came in a legal submission due to be released on Thursday in a case brought by Beijing against the EU. Market economy status would make it more difficult for the US to defend its anti-dumping rulings against Chinese companies at the WTO.

Unsurprising pettiness... meanwhile in China...


China Economic Data Exceeds Estimates, Driven by Export Demand -- Update
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BEIJING – Activity in China's critical manufacturing sector picked up in November, as robust global demand for Chinese exports boosted the world's second-largest economy.

An official gauge of factory activity, the purchasing managers index, edged up to 51.8 in November from 51.6 in October, the National Bureau of Statistics reported Thursday. The reading beat a median forecast of 51.5 by economists polled by The Wall Street Journal and kept the index above the 50-mark that separates expansion from contraction for the 16th month in a row.

China's economy has shown surprising strength, confounding the expectations of many analysts for a slowdown in the year's final months due to Beijing's efforts to cut excess capacity, curb pollution and reduce corporate and financial-sector debt.

The purchasing managers index "suggests that growth momentum held up well in the final quarter despite all these headwinds," said Liu Xuezhi, an economist with Bank of Communications.

After the index ticked down in October, some economists thought the slowdown was under way. Others attributed it to a weeklong holiday and the halting of production at some factories to keep the Beijing area's skies clear during the Communist Party congress.

With those temporary factors gone, the economy is rebounding helped by strong global demand for Chinese exports, said Mr. Liu.

Orders for exports and imports showed improvement in November, according to subindexes, and that, economists said, bodes well for China's trade figures, which will be released next week.

Global demand, which has been weak in recent years, has staged a sustained revival this year, helping China clock better-than-expected economic growth in the first three quarters.

Adding to the brighter outlook was increased spending by enterprises and faster expansion by equipment and high-tech manufacturing as well as consumer-goods makers, said Zhao Qinghe, an economist with the government's statistics bureau.

Meanwhile, the service sector got a boost from the annual Singles' Day shopping spree on Nov. 11, the biggest online-shopping event for young Chinese consumers. Mr. Zhao said the retail, wholesale, internet and delivery sectors all expanded faster in November, lifting the official nonmanufacturing PMI to 54.8 in November from 54.3 in October.

Strong exports, along with aggressive government spending, drove the Chinese economy to a 6.9% growth rate in the first nine months of the year, putting the government's 6.5% annual growth target in easy reach for the final quarter. Given that, Beijing has already started to scale back its fiscal spending while moving forward in its deleveraging campaign and keeping a lid on a hot property market to try to guide the economy to a healthier footing.

Julian Evans-Pritchard, an economist with Capital Economics, said the slower credit growth, a cooler housing market, reduced fiscal support plus the antipollution crackdown are likely to sap the current growth momentum in the coming months.
 
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