Chinese Economics Thread

[tidalwave]

Korea is very happy Obama blocking China from semiconductor investment. China needs to sanction those US and Korean companies in China.

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EOUL,KOREA
4 January 2017 - 12:00pm
Cho Jin-young

As the Obama administration is said to adopt a report that put restrictions on Chinese investment in the U.S. semiconductor sector by the end of this month, the domestic semiconductor industry is paying close attention to.


According to industry sources and foreign news reports on January 3, China is expanding its investment in the U.S. semiconductor industry and President Barack Obama will announce measures to limit Chinese investment soon before he leaves

An official from the semiconductor industry said, “When the U.S. government, which blocked the attempt of China's Tsinghua Unigroup to buy Micron Technology and SanDisk in the last two years, stipulates restrictions on Chinese investment, it can be favorable for us.

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[Jura The idiot]

I kinda expected the change for Shanghai:

but had no idea about what's happened in

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[Blackstone]

Korea is very happy Obama blocking China from semiconductor investment. China needs to sanction those US and Korean companies in China.

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EOUL,KOREA
4 January 2017 - 12:00pm
Cho Jin-young

As the Obama administration is said to adopt a report that put restrictions on Chinese investment in the U.S. semiconductor sector by the end of this month, the domestic semiconductor industry is paying close attention to.


According to industry sources and foreign news reports on January 3, China is expanding its investment in the U.S. semiconductor industry and President Barack Obama will announce measures to limit Chinese investment soon before he leaves

An official from the semiconductor industry said, “When the U.S. government, which blocked the attempt of China's Tsinghua Unigroup to buy Micron Technology and SanDisk in the last two years, stipulates restrictions on Chinese investment, it can be favorable for us.

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If China manages these setbacks well by making necessary reforms and investments, ramping up education and R&D, and harnesting free market forces, things might turn out better for China's long-term national development, just like its Space Program.

 

[manqiangrexue]

If China manages these setbacks well by making necessary reforms and investments, ramping up education and R&D, and harnesting free market forces, things might turn out better for China's long-term national development, just like its Space Program.

And its supercomputer chip program!

 

[Franklin]

I kinda expected the change for Shanghai:

but had no idea about what's happened in

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I'm surprised that you as a long and regular member of SDF don't know this. Its not just Shanghai and Shenzhen virtually every major Chinese city has gone through more or less the same development albeit less extreme than those two.

Korea is very happy Obama blocking China from semiconductor investment. China needs to sanction those US and Korean companies in China.

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EOUL,KOREA
4 January 2017 - 12:00pm
Cho Jin-young

As the Obama administration is said to adopt a report that put restrictions on Chinese investment in the U.S. semiconductor sector by the end of this month, the domestic semiconductor industry is paying close attention to.


According to industry sources and foreign news reports on January 3, China is expanding its investment in the U.S. semiconductor industry and President Barack Obama will announce measures to limit Chinese investment soon before he leaves

An official from the semiconductor industry said, “When the U.S. government, which blocked the attempt of China's Tsinghua Unigroup to buy Micron Technology and SanDisk in the last two years, stipulates restrictions on Chinese investment, it can be favorable for us.

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Its not going to work. This can merely delay things in China not stop it.

 

[vesicles]

If China manages these setbacks well by making necessary reforms and investments, ramping up education and R&D, and harnesting free market forces, things might turn out better for China's long-term national development, just like its Space Program.

And its supercomputer chip program!

Its not going to work. This can merely delays things in China not stop it.

I don't understand what Obama's long term goal is when he decides to block these things. As mentioned by many posters here, past experience tells us that any attempt to block these technologies would simply push China harder to be creative itself. And in most cases, China comes up with better stuff in the end. This has happened so many times. I wonder why Obama is still doing the same thing. Hasn't he learned anything in the past 8 years?

Is Obama's strategy simply to delay China for a few years? that is hardly a long term goal by any means. It achieves nothing except antagonizing China, which in itself achieves nothing...

 

[manqiangrexue]

I don't understand what Obama's long term goal is when he decides to block these things. As mentioned by many posters here, past experience tells us that any attempt to block these technologies would simply push China harder to be creative itself. And in most cases, China comes up with better stuff in the end. This has happened so many times. I wonder why Obama is still doing the same thing. Hasn't he learned anything in the past 8 years?

Is Obama's strategy simply to delay China for a few years? that is hardly a long term goal by any means. It achieves nothing except antagonizing China, which in itself achieves nothing...

What long term goal? He's got 4 days left in office LOL Maybe he wants to help China develop semiconductors to give Trump a harder time haha What I need him to do is ban auto exports to China, and make Japan, Korea, Europe follow suit!

 

[vesicles]

What long term goal? He's got 4 days left in office LOL

I meant his long term and strategic foreign policy goal for the US.

 

[SanWenYu]

I meant his long term and strategic foreign policy goal for the US.

As you already said, his immediate goal might be to delay the Chinese semiconductor industry for a few years. In long term, he could be hoping that Chinese will not able to catch up because of the delay.

I think this is probably as much as he can do without a total embargo. It does make a hurdle for the Chinese to overcome.

 

[taxiya]

I meant his long term and strategic foreign policy goal for the US.

I think he doesn't have any long term strategy for US, neither Trump or anybody afterwards. A institutional problem, 4 to 8 years in white house then to sabotage the opposite party's strategy is the only thing these guys do. No policy continuation after 8 years (a short term).

On a personal level, I never blame an individual U.S. president for lacking of long time vision. If we put Xin or Putin in the white house, they will not fare any better.