Chinese Economics Thread

[AndrewS]

Dark pools aren't necessarily bad.

But the issue is that it is very difficult to identify and then prove predatory orders on the markets

 

[Yvrch]

Exactly, it lacks the transparency.
It just shows that whatever the maturity level of market, there always are issues no matter what.

 

[Brumby]

Speaking of small investors losing their shirts, here is the percentage of black pools in US which is very close to 50%. Small investors in China losing their shirts not even close to what is happening in this system. Funny thing is people don't even realize how much they are being ripped off. Free market they say. Incredible.

Here is a recent list of blocks of Japanese dark pools.

How are dark pools connected to the article on small investors being burnt?

 

[broadsword]

According to the SD Forum Rules of Behavior, https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/sd-forum-rules-of-behavior.t7851/#post-359929, you are not allowed to post:

Post any comments that prompt anger or hatred between different countries or groups of people. This includes "Nationalistic chest thumping," "Country bashing," and any attempts to insult countries, governments, or people (particularly with insulting labels, like Nazis, etc.).

SamuraiBlue's regular selective posts of articles putting China in a bad light make that cut, IMO. They are one-sided and thus paint a false picture of China. That constitutes "Country bashing". That is why the other members have to come forward to rebut.

So I am confounded why he has been let off the hook for so long. Instead, we get "This thread is not about..." or
"This thread is not about China's [ ] vs [the other country]'s [ ]". "I am going to close this thread for a few days".

Right after he has slotted in his last say.

The person who abetted the derailment got off the hook again, sometimes with the other members getting the suspension to top it off for overstepping a wee bit.

I can understand this forum is neither pro nor anti-China since it not run by a Chinese, but what are rules for?

 

[Brumby]

According to the SD Forum Rules of Behavior, https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/sd-forum-rules-of-behavior.t7851/#post-359929, you are not allowed to post:



SamuraiBlue's regular selective posts of articles putting China in a bad light make that cut, IMO. They are one-sided and thus paint a false picture of China. That constitutes "Country bashing". That is why the other members have to come forward to rebut.

This issue had been on my mind and I am glad you brought it up because it warrants a robust debate about such issues.
What had been troubling me is that I am sensing attempts by specific interest group to shut down discussions or news that are not perceived as complementary towards China. The narrative is framed as country bashing. On the other hand if this is the standard of determination then the argument can be made that complementary news are simply nationalistic chest thumping.
The question I have for you is why does sharing news that are not complementary considered against forum rules? Please don't just state that it is your opinion because such a position warrant justification.
The rules are not designed to suit ideological agenda but to keep the decorum within the forum. IMO it requires exercise of maturity and professionalism if one wish to engage and participate actively. Problem arise when these attributes are absent. Traditionally, one either ignore the post or provide a cogent rebuttal. The main failure I see is resorting to personal attacks which in my view is a sign of personal weakness.

 

[Brumby]

According to the SD Forum Rules of Behavior, https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/sd-forum-rules-of-behavior.t7851/#post-359929, you are not allowed to post:



SamuraiBlue's regular selective posts of articles putting China in a bad light make that cut, IMO. They are one-sided and thus paint a false picture of China. That constitutes "Country bashing". That is why the other members have to come forward to rebut.

So let's take for example the recent article small investors being burnt. Financial markets go through cycles and volatility swings. It is not unique to China. Investors get burnt and so happen that China just experienced it. IMO it will get a lot worse before it gets better. It is the nature of the beast. It has been the case since time immemorial as with the tulip phenomena to modern day financial markets. Why are you people so sensitive and indignant over such news?

 

[broadsword]

I don't regard sharing of news that are not complementary to China as country bashing. Heck, anyone can do that, including pro-China guys like me. It is important to get the true picture of China, but when one cares only to post the negative reportings, it speaks of his intent. And if he is someone whose country had been an aggressor, I have reason to be suspicious. There is a world of difference. It has nothing to do with professionalism.

 

[broadsword]

So let's take for example the recent article small investors being burnt. Financial markets go through cycles and volatility swings. It is not unique to China. Investors get burnt and so happen that China just experienced it. IMO it will get a lot worse before it gets better. It is the nature of the beast. It has been the case since time immemorial as with the tulip phenomena to modern day financial markets. Why are you people so sensitive and indignant over such news?

Look at his pattern of postings, not an individual case. Then you can get his profile.

 

[SamuraiBlue]

I don't regard sharing of news that are not complementary to China as country bashing. Heck, anyone can do that, including pro-China guys like me. It is important to get the true picture of China, but when one cares only to post the negative reportings, it speaks of his intent. And if he is someone whose country had been an aggressor, I have reason to be suspicious. There is a world of difference. It has nothing to do with professionalism.

Good or bad the articles I post are reporting actual news that happened not opinion pieces of some individual.
If you don't like what is happening too bad but that is reality.
If there was a forum about American mass shooting I would have enough to post there too which will get some people upset but again that is reality.

Kusanagi Motoko in the anime Ghost in the Shell said it quite eloquently;

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[solarz]

Looks as if the little people are getting burnt.

This article originated from AFP.

The Chinese stock market has been experiencing booms and busts since it opened in the 90's. Anyone who goes into the stock market knows, or should know, the heavy risk they are taking.

This is why the majority of Chinese invest in real estate, a much more stable form of investment.