Chinese Economics Thread

Michael90

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I think very important policy directives. And coming from Xi means a lot.

Well done Xi. Especially tackling the destructive price wars many Chinese companies are engaged in. Plus it’s time to start shutting off those unproductive companies especially in the solar industry which as led to overcapacity and huge losses to the biggest/mist competitive players like JinkoSolar, LONGi, and Trina Solar. It’s about time there should be consolidation and closing down the other smaller scarred inefficient producers .
 

zbb

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I posted my latest episode with Han Feizi on China's economy and a whole bunch of issues.

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The chart in the post (copied below) really debunks the myth that Chinese industrial production is export oriented/dependent. As I previously pointed out, China is in fact far less export oriented/dependent than the other major manufacturing powers.

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The chart above would just show how much of China’s production for each industries is actually dependent on US export. You can see that Consumer Electronics is basically the only major one. Of course, a large part of that is just Apple exporting products made in China to America and then making a huge profit on top.
Can't find it now, but I remember seeing a list of companies that were the largest exporters of goods from China to the US, where #1 was Apple, #2 was HP, #3 was Dell, and mostly American and other foreign (non-Chinese) companies filling out the rest of the list. While exports by companies like Apple, HP, and Dell generate high gross export revenue, relatively little of the value added comes from China, with most of the value added coming from components imported from Taiwan, South Korea, etc. So it's no surprise that while Chinese trade surplus with the US dropped dramatically due to the trade war, China's overall trade surplus as well as US's overall trade deficit are both looking to set new record highs this year.
 

Quan8410

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Well done Xi. Especially tackling the destructive price wars many Chinese companies are engaged in. Plus it’s time to start shutting off those unproductive companies especially in the solar industry which as led to overcapacity and huge losses to the biggest/mist competitive players like JinkoSolar, LONGi, and Trina Solar. It’s about time there should be consolidation and closing down the other smaller scarred inefficient producers .
Xi must be a moron because according to this forum, deflation is always good.
 

tokenanalyst

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Xi must be a moron because according to this forum, deflation is always good.
Like inflation there different types of deflations, there is deflation because consumers cannot afford the goods, like a money crunch and there is deflation because you are producing too much, too much food, too much consumer goods. The first one is bad, the second one is not that bad and solves on its own.

Now between inflation and deflation I think the 80s Latin-Americanization of a country's economy is the worst thing that can happen to a country, either your currency sucks or you country have supply problems. One thing is wages not increasing as fast as you want but still have the ability to afford a nice living standard and another different thing is a economy trapped with wages not increasing but prices increasing really fast. In the first one is annoying for companies and the second one is a recipe for social upheaval.
 
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