Chinese Economics Thread

[tphuang]

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May 1st weekend saw a lot more tourism in general, but quite a bit to countries that recent waived visas with China

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Looks like a lot more Hong Konger prefer to go to mainland for tourism vs vice versa, because things are so much cheaper on the mainland

 

[Randomuser]

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May 1st weekend saw a lot more tourism in general, but quite a bit to countries that recent waived visas with China

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Looks like a lot more Hong Konger prefer to go to mainland for tourism vs vice versa, because things are so much cheaper on the mainland

This is why whenever I hear westoids say let HK or Taiwan vote to be part of China or whatever long decision, I see how bs it is.

People's views change a lot depending on the circumstances. Before HKers rarely go to China coz it was much harder and therefore have less interaction so they won't like China. The newer generation who have grown up with much more interaction will have different views. That's how easy people's views can change. Now imagine using a vote at a certain point of time be used to decide something long term like declaring independence. A shitty government deserves to be overthrown but something that rests on people's feeling at that point of time which is very fickle is not the best way to do it.

Speaking of which, if HK and Taiwan starts being more pro-china, would they still talk about voting. Or will they just say it's rigged like they always do?

 

[BlackWindMnt]

This is why whenever I hear westoids say let HK or Taiwan vote to be part of China or whatever long decision, I see how bs it is.

People's views change a lot depending on the circumstances. Before HKers rarely go to China coz it was much harder and therefore have less interaction so they won't like China. The newer generation who have grown up with much more interaction will have different views. That's how easy people's views can change. Now imagine using a vote at a certain point of time be used to decide something long term like declaring independence. A shitty government deserves to be overthrown but something that rests on people's feeling at that point of time which is very fickle is not the best way to do it.

Speaking of which, if HK and Taiwan starts being more pro-china, would they still talk about voting. Or will they just say it's rigged like they always do?

If they voted to join the mainland the west would just say see China just stuffed those places with pro mainland supporters.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

This is interesting. Could you provide reading materials on this topic?

Sure.

Part 1: US and Russian advantage.

US and Soviets ironically both adopted the exact same method developed by Ford, breaking down labor into the simplest possible steps and using mass assembly line production.

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Part 2: German weakness

German industry had the huge weakness of large numbers of non standard variants and high labor cost per unit. Mark V Panther tank took 150,000 man-hours to build. The Tiger, with over 26,000 parts, took over 300,000 man-hours.

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[sunnymaxi]

China extended more inclusive loans to small and micro enterprises in the Q1 of 2024. By the end of March, outstanding inclusive loans granted to small and micro enterprises totaled RMB 33.41 Trillion, up 20.3% from a year earlier, the People's Bank of China said..



Top three sectors are, semiconductor , Ai and Robotics ..

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Sure.

Part 1: US and Russian advantage.

US and Soviets ironically both adopted the exact same method developed by Ford, breaking down labor into the simplest possible steps and using mass assembly line production.

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Part 2: German weakness

German industry had the huge weakness of large numbers of non standard variants and high labor cost per unit. Mark V Panther tank took 150,000 man-hours to build. The Tiger, with over 26,000 parts, took over 300,000 man-hours.

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But was the main reason for Germany's apparent less efficient production of ground combat vehicles due to industrial/technical limitations or rather engineering tradeoffs motivated in large part by lack of critical resources (oil and high quality alloy) that forced Germany to focus on smaller quantities of qualitatively superior platforms?

 

[gelgoog]

When the Tiger and Panther came out the Germans still had access to tungsten. I think the main issue was the Germans ran into the KV-1 and T-34 after Barbarossa and thought they had to outmatch both of them. The Tiger was basically a stop gap solution where they put an 88mm gun, of a caliber they already had in AA guns, which they knew could penetrate Soviet heavy tanks. And the Panther was supposed to be the mass production tank with 75mm high velocity gun.

 

[supercat]

David P. Goldman's rebuttal to the China overcapacity claim.

Debunking China’s overcapacity myth​

Data shows China’s exports are more economic miracle than deflation-driven devilry

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In this article from SCMP, it is mentioned that China may export more than 6 million vehicles this year, including heavy commercial vehicles. Since SCMP is not the most reliable source, I'm posting it here for information only.

China’s EV makers, unfazed by US, European export curbs, will push overseas vehicle shipments to new heights, analysts say​

• Curbs on exports of Chinese-made cars in the US and EU will not deter assemblers from BYD to Chery from pursuing their global ambitions, analysts say
• Chinese EVs have the potential to unseat conventional carmakers in fast-growing markets like Thailand, says general manager of Jetour’s international business

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China is expected to ship 6 million vehicles abroad in 2024, including buses and lorries, 22 per cent higher than last year’s 4.91 million units, according to Sun Xiaohong, general secretary of the car unit under the China Chamber of Commerce for Import and Export of Machinery and Electronic Products.

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[supercat]

China is now the world's largest exporter of excavators.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788144669878100393

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

India commits FOREIGN ELECTION INTERFERENCE but China gets the blame in Canada. When Australia was making waves about an alleged nest of spies, most assumed it was China. But it was all the Supapowah India.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788060030383849688