Chinese Economics Thread

Randomuser

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This is taking it too far. The vast majority of Chinese people don't want this. They just want to see China and its friends prosper.
It's called getting even. What is revenge about? Getting even and showing other their actions will have consequences so they should think if they wanna try that again.

Heres something to note. Almost every great power usually peaks and never comes back again. We are not speaking Greek, Italian, Spanish or french now are we?

What makes China difference is it comes back like a Phoenix every time. China is still there while it's historical enemies are either weakened to a point that they accept their place or they simply no longer exist like the Xiongnu, Central Turks, Jurchens etc.

That's why the west rather destroy the world than let this happen. But hey maybe China has a counter to nukes secretly while they don't. If the west wants to go the way of the Xiongnu thats their problem.
 

Maikeru

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Interesting article on China's luxury goods market. What gets me is that Western media ALWAYS describe China as "second biggest economy" without seemingly noticing the discrepancy that it is accounts for half of global luxury goods sales (or being the biggest market in most sectors of consumer goods for that matter). Anyway, ignoring the spin, some brands like Gucci stalling but LVMH sales to Chinese up 10% in Q1, with Hermes and Prada up 17% & 18% respectively.

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canonicalsadhu

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Interesting article on China's luxury goods market. What gets me is that Western media ALWAYS describe China as "second biggest economy" without seemingly noticing the discrepancy that it is accounts for half of global luxury goods sales (or being the biggest market in most sectors of consumer goods for that matter). Anyway, ignoring the spin, some brands like Gucci stalling but LVMH sales to Chinese up 10% in Q1, with Hermes and Prada up 17% & 18% respectively.

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Honestly, Chinese media like GT, Xinhua, etc. all describe China as "second biggest economy" as well. Chinese gov in general is rather conservative and measured when describing its own capacities and capabilities (contrary to popular western opinion).
 

TK3600

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Honestly, Chinese media like GT, Xinhua, etc. all describe China as "second biggest economy" as well. Chinese gov in general is rather conservative and measured when describing its own capacities and capabilities (contrary to popular western opinion).
Chinese propaganda so succesful American medias repeat it without ever question. Is this not a succesful lie? A lie so succesful other side become angry for any challenge.
 

phrozenflame

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Interesting article on China's luxury goods market. What gets me is that Western media ALWAYS describe China as "second biggest economy" without seemingly noticing the discrepancy that it is accounts for half of global luxury goods sales (or being the biggest market in most sectors of consumer goods for that matter). Anyway, ignoring the spin, some brands like Gucci stalling but LVMH sales to Chinese up 10% in Q1, with Hermes and Prada up 17% & 18% respectively.

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That's alot of money going towards useless stuff. Wonder if there is any centralized plans to curtail this spend or replace it with local luxury brands.
 

ansy1968

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That's alot of money going towards useless stuff. Wonder if there is any centralized plans to curtail this spend or replace it with local luxury brands.
Bro trust me you can't regulate it, I always express my objection when my wife purchase LV, GUCCI and other luxury items, you know her response is, it's an investment!!!! We argue but how can you win when she told you I have 3 kids and what dowry I'll give them when they married, so it's better to buy now before inflation kicks in, so I kept quiet and grudgingly open my wallet. And its a good exercise cause my wallet always stay thin....lol
 

ougoah

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There isn't a reason to, they get tax from it and it's not like luxury goods consume a lot of resources.

When did money cease being a resource?

Every RMB spent on foreign made and owned luxury products is one less RMB (and all the associated labour and real resources) that can be spent on actual worthwhile things - education, research, industry, manufacturing, infrastructure, purchasing real resources...

The only decent argument for spending on luxury goods is that it can potentially make some people "happy" for a little while. At the very least, provide people with a distraction. This may be useful on occasion but weaning Chinese people off overspending on luxury goods is in my opinion a worthwhile pursuit. Veblen goods are by definition overpriced and not worth even a small fraction of paid for price. It does nothing for the economy (in any real measure), are terrible investments in the long run (for run of the mill mass produced luxury crap that the middle and upper middle spend money on), and Chinese people own a disproportionate amount in volume and $ value of global luxury goods. This means Chinese people are the biggest suckers for the modern age scam that is luxury brand crap. Also noticing that so much social worth in Chinese society is unfortunately determined by how much of this shit they own. So much so that global luxury houses have trended towards making their brand names more noticeable just for the Chinese market demand (again it's about 50% of globe despite Chinese population being only 1/6 and less of globe). Chinese people overwhelmingly infer someone else's level of success and social status based on how big these brand names are. Hopefully this corrects and younger generations pick up some class and become more grounded in how they measure others.
 
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