Chinese Economics Thread

[manqiangrexue]

The current gov of Australia has made pretty clear that they are hostile against China. It's a conscientious choice they made.
The issue with Australia is not that they ban Huawei but how they do it. Some other countries banned huawei but they have not done it in a hostile or confrontation way. The huawei ban was their way of displaying this hostility. So sending this list was stupid because it was predictable they will say China is trying to coerce them. And this is exactly what they are saying now. This list is stupid because it does not matter why China thinks Australia is acting like a hostile country. The Australia gov has decided to act like that.

Australia has been complaining that China refuses to talk and they claim they basically don't even know why China is doing this. So a list is free and easy to compile, free and easy to send. It clears up communications at no cost. Your incessant bitching and nagging about such a simple basic communication is what is stupid.

Do you think they don't know that 48% of Australia's exports go to China? They know it but still doing what they are doing.
That mean that Australia Gov are ready to accept less trade with China if necessary. So China making this point as if they're doing a favor to Australia is needless. No one is forcing China to buy Australia product. If China do not longer want to buy from Australia, go ahead, find another country and move on, instead of repeat and repeat this point.

So the Australians complaining about diminished trade with China is really what's stupid then, isn't it?

According to the experiences from our past conversations, I wouldn't be shocked if by the end of this one, we find out that you didn't really know what stupid means.

 

[nastya1]

Australians putting geopolitical interests ahead of economic interest because they feel insecure. This related how anglos colonied the land illegally and they are afraid one day someone else would kick them of their place one day.
They band together to defend their territories. Australians are more insecure than British and hence more antiChina

 

[horse]

Let's say this, and make an assumption.

The Chinese Communist Party is going after the Anglosphere countries because they have bad attitudes.

Trade war and tech war with the United States along with China 2025.
Crippling trade bans to Australia which will eventually include iron ore.
Locking up in jail 2 Canadians and another 3 Canadians on death row.

If CCP declared unofficial hostilities against Anglo countries, then in all three of these instances, there is no way China is going to lose, and there is no way any of these current situations with these three can reverse themselves.

Are these Anglos countries stuck in a battle they cannot win, with no end in sight, against the CCP?

Inquiring minds wanna know!



Then of course, CCP always say something, that is not necessarily inflammatory, but always seems to push it one way, further deep into the battle.

Maybe in the past, we can attribute that to cultural misunderstanding. But why are things always going in the "right" direction every time after the CCP opens it mouth?

 

[nastya1]

Let's say this, and make an assumption.

The Chinese Communist Party is going after the Anglosphere countries because they have bad attitudes.

Trade war and tech war with the United States along with China 2025.
Crippling trade bans to Australia which will eventually include iron ore.
Locking up in jail 2 Canadians and another 3 Canadians on death row.

If CCP declared unofficial hostilities against Anglo countries, then in all three of these instances, there is no way China is going to lose, and there is no way any of these current situations with these three can reverse themselves.

Are these Anglos countries stuck in a battle they cannot win, with no end in sight, against the CCP?

Inquiring minds wanna know!

Chinese think tank thinks Australia has no use and to some extent Canada therefore cast them aside.

As for US, its internal racial faultline and overreached global empire will eventually crumble one again.
China can afford to lose to US in the competition as long as it doesn't allow US to gain from it's victory. In the long run, US would self diminished enough ..

 

[nastya1]

Chinese think tank thinks Australia has no use and to some extent Canada therefore cast them aside.

As for US, its internal racial faultline and overreached global empire will eventually crumble one again.
China can afford to lose to US in the competition as long as it doesn't allow US to gain from it's victory. In the long run, US would self diminished enough ..

A bit more.
Trump legacy wanted to be known as first president breakup the China US historical engagement.

Therefore China need to make US pay by making China market doesn't use any US tech in the long run even if it means its self developed tech is less advanced. Because US cannot gain , in the long run it will self diminish faster due to its being a global predator with bigger appetite to refurbish itself and gain to compensate due to internal conflict and faultline. It needs to eat more to survive.

US think tank is wrong about China tech is about to dominate the world. Well at least not the western or pro western countries. China tech is about denying US gain to sustain its own global empire.

This is what long term competition is all about.

 

[escobar]

Australia has been complaining that China refuses to talk and they claim they basically don't even know why China is doing this. So a list is free and easy to compile, free and easy to send. It clears up communications at no cost. Your incessant bitching and nagging about such a simple basic communication is what is stupid.
So the Australians complaining about diminished trade with China is really what's stupid then, isn't it?
According to the experiences from our past conversations, I wouldn't be shocked if by the end of this one, we find out that you didn't really know what stupid means.

Spare me your absurdities. Everyone know why China is doing this.
And the list is somewhat hypocritical because PRC also does some things it accuses Australia of doing.

 

[vincent]

Spare me your absurdities. Everyone know why China is doing this.
And the list is somewhat hypocritical because PRC also does some things it accuses Australia of doing.

Somebody thinks she is smarter than the Chinese leaders that maintained 30+ years of crazy growth

The list is not just for the Aussies to see. It is a warning to other countries As well.

 

[escobar]

Somebody thinks she is smarter than the Chinese leaders that maintained 30+ years of crazy growth

Somebody think economic success means automatically inter-state geo-economic relation success. Whatsoever...

 

[AndrewS]

Somebody think economic success means automatically inter-state geo-economic relation success. Whatsoever...

And what is RCEP but a signal of the future? By all accounts, the China-Korea-Japan Free Trade Agreement is now being fast tracked

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The release of the list is a statement that the Chinese government has given up on the China-Australia relationship.

Normally issues are resolved behind closed doors, but this very public statement means the gloves are off.

Australia is going to be a very visible example of what will happen if you actively work against China.

48% of Australia's exports go to China.
3% of China's exports go to Australia.

It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Spare me your absurdities. Everyone know why China is doing this.
And the list is somewhat hypocritical because PRC also does some things it accuses Australia of doing.

Shut up. Really, it's come to a point where absolutely everything you write is an affront to reason; just shut up.

I haven't come across a single China-hater who's ever put forward anything resembling a cogent argument. I joke about "China Derangement Syndrome", but does your kind really have a mental disorder?