Chinese Economics Thread

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
hi Gatekeeper

Yes the Anti China crowd has Bi-partisan support, and yes I agreed with you about the arrogance of the US policy. But right now China need to bide its time to achieve its COMPREHENSIVE NATIONAL POWER. The US power as of now is supreme, but this pandemic and also of TRUMP is a turning point for a major decline. The sign of US imperial overreach is evident that it cant influence its Allies, instead must resort to using threat to advance its policy. that is why China must not use sanction indiscriminately, both Republican and Democrat are under the influence of US corporation and wall street , they are China only allied left and need to be nurture.

The problem is those corporation want China to deliver profit on the silver plate They don't believe in free competition and they expect China to give them free reign in buying out Chinese company and allow them unrestricted access to Chinese market with little regulation as possible That is colonialism in all but name As soon as China protect domestic enterprises they sulk. I don't see any advantage in catering to those companies. They will restrict access to their most advance technology anyway and only sell 2nd rate technologies.
etc Google failed to crack China market because of Baidu and blame censorship in China British supermarket Tesco failed in China due to competition etc.

European companies tend to be better corporate citizend bringing with them R&D facilities and trusting Chinese to man those facilities
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
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Currently the Fed says they’re willing to buy all treasuries.


I just hope CCP doesn’t go retarded and burn fruits of decades of Chinese blood and sweat labor.

Don't you believe it. It just a confident trick. It happened before as in the UK being ejected from the EMU. Before the rejection, the government announced it will defend the pound come what may.

To be fair, they couldn't say any thing else, as all FIAT money, and Financial instruments is based on confident!
 

Chish

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China always has the following nuclear options in response to US getting too uppity.

Ban Apple (Probably threatening to use this card right now)
Ban US car compani
Use all reserves and then US treasuries
Banning private US companies in retaliations against US government is self defeating.This would be going down to the same level of the US government. US companies operating with or in China are Chinese bonus and allies, they are going against the wishes of the Whitehouse. The much better way to deal with US/West bans and sanctions is to innovate and grow China own domestic market and its international trades from Arctic to Antarctica. Being a very much more attractive, innovative, efficient and biggest economy in the world, the center of gravity will be in China, Beijing will then be calling the shots. Western economies will become secondary. This is feasible but requires time and long term planning.
By the way, no need to ban exports such as rare earth. Regulations will do. For every ton extracted/exported, the government can impose a levy for rehabilitation of the environment or scale down the mining for future reserve. Just control the quantity available but do it legally. Banning export is a bad solution with complications. Look at the big picture, don't be blind by rage. The US and allies know what's likely to be coming. They are not telling you about their nightmares, just wanting to stop the China dream. They are also thinking long term you know, but are hamstrung somewhat by their short term governing cycles because they are not willing to take on hard and unpopular decisions for the benefits of future governments. They have re-elections to worry about. Come election time, they will make very generous decisions just to get reelected.
 
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emblem21

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Well US stocks are in historic high even GDP is very much down. Its plain to see the US government response
only supported the rich and just threw some bones to the poor to chew on.
Not sure how long this can carry on, I mean sooner or later something is going to burst and it isn't going to be pretty for the US no matter what they do then. I mean if they can print money and the poor can become rich, why didn't they do that instead of giving the poor people crumbs and the rich too much money that it is impossible to spend them all
 

hullopilllw

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Ant Group, the parent company of Alipay will do a dual listing on HK and Shanghai's STAR Board. Bye Bye Nasdaq.
$200b USD evaluation, it will probably be the largest fintech company upon launch.
Take note that Alipay will be a crucial link for the internationalisation of DC/EP.

For those that want to buy, prepare some HKD. This company is worth way more than Alibaba itself.



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hullopilllw

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Well US stocks are in historic high even GDP is very much down. Its plain to see the US government response
only supported the rich and just threw some bones to the poor to chew on.

The poor threw all the funds they received back into the equity market. The trap of FIRE economy.
 
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