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Quickie

Colonel
To avoid rotating the lift rotor for cruising like in V-22. Since that transition was the most risky time of V-22 operation, it may be simpler and more reliable to eliminate that complexity.

The design could also be mechanically better. It is the same engine with an extra gear box to drive two propellers. V-22 will save one gear box but add the rotation mechanics and the risk.

The only drawback I can think of is top speed being lower.

The test-bed model uses the same propulsion method as the helicopter. The two sets of main rotor blades at the top (as opposed to the one set of main rotor blades in a helicopter) provides the lifting force as well as the forward propulsion force. The two sets of smaller rotor blades just behind the main rotors does the work of the helicopter tail rotors in providing the turning force. I think this kind of arrangement has the advantage of allowing the aircraft to have the more streamline fuselage shape more akin to an aeroplane than a helicopter.
 

taxiya

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Mini-Ka-22!
Just superficial similarity no more than similarity between a F-15 and Su-27.

For one that differs in lift generation and aerodynamic control, Ka-22's lift rotors are not used during cruising. All lift are from the main wings, a typical fixed wing aircraft. While this aircraft use both wings and lift rotors for cruising.

Secondly, this aircraft's lift rotor is stiff, Ka-22 is flexible. The stiff one is suitable for high speed (over 400kmh) even when it is turning into the wind. The flexible rotors just create resistence and being dead weight. So there is the high speed matter.

Ka-22 is an early experiment, and no doubt a respectable achievement. But it is old, taking credit from this Chinese aircraft is not really a compliment to Ka-22.
 
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taxiya

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“短尾隼”是航空工业直升机所开发的横列式前行桨叶概念高速直升机,左右横列布置的刚性双旋翼,两旋翼横向间距为1.25R,旋翼平面与机翼夹角为5度。推进桨布置在旋翼下方。机身上方为两旋翼的后行区域,前飞时,后行区域卸载,充分发挥前行侧桨叶升力,实现高速飞行。在人员运输、战术运输,垂直补给,应急救援等方面具有广阔的应用前景。
  • Stiff rotors.
  • Distance of the two lift rotors is 1.25R(adius).
  • There is a 5 degree angle between the planes of airfoil and lift rotors.
  • The rotors turn backwards over the top of the wings which is "discharge area". (I don't really understand discharge). This benefit generating lift by the forward turning outer blades.
There is also the demo flight photo of the co-axil rotor + propeller design in the same link.
 

Tirdent

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Ka-22 is an early experiment, and no doubt a respectable achievement. But it is old, taking credit from this Chinese aircraft is not really a compliment to Ka-22.

The intention was certainly not to take away anything from the Chinese project, but to show that it's not so "weird" after all, with at least one historical precedent.

That the Ka-22 doesn't feature rigid rotors or other much more recent developments like composites hardly detracts from the fact that the basic concept (as opposed to, say, a tilt-rotor or any of the other radically different high-speed rotorcraft layouts) is very much the same.
 
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Quickie

Colonel
The intention was certainly not to take away anything from the Chinese project, but to show that it's not so "weird" after all, with at least one historical precedent.

That the Ka-22 doesn't feature rigid rotors or other much more recent developments like composites hardly detracts from the fact that the basic concept (as opposed to, say, a tilt-rotor or any of the other radically different high-speed rotorcraft layouts) is very much the same.

I don't know about you, other than similarity in the main rotors and propellers arrangement (the Ka-22 has the propellers in front of the wings, the test model has it at the back), the test model look quite different from the Ka-22, with the former totally missing of the wings, rudders, elevators of a fixed wing aircraft.

The two aircraft are also very different in their method of flight functions.

The Ka -22 uses the rudder, elevator, aileron for controls during level flight. On the other hand, the test model is totally missing of this control surfaces and have to rely on its main rotors and propellers for propulsion and controls during cruising flight.
 
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