Chinese air to ground weapons (missiles, PGMs, etc)
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The first article is basically paraphrasing skywatcher's post on his blog, and there is still a level of trepidation as to what PL-15 really is, so it's worth keeping in mind that Huitong's assessment of PL-15 as it is may not be wholly accurate.
also, we have an AAM thread: https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinese-aam.t1481/page-24#post-365713
SinoSoldier
Colonel
Is there any data on the K/YBS500?
It was first unveiled at the 2012 Zhuhai airshow but most of the information has been kept under wraps.
It supposedly comes in five variants:
1. Guided/unguided cluster bomb
2. Glide bomb
3. Aircraft borne submunitions dispenser
4. Unguided air-to-surface rocket
5. Guided air-to-surface missile
It was first unveiled at the 2012 Zhuhai airshow but most of the information has been kept under wraps.
It supposedly comes in five variants:
1. Guided/unguided cluster bomb
2. Glide bomb
3. Aircraft borne submunitions dispenser
4. Unguided air-to-surface rocket
5. Guided air-to-surface missile
SinoSoldier
Colonel
Hyperwarp
Captain
Regarding the PL-10; can someone translate these slides. Are things like max range, off-bore sight, LOAL, max g' limits given? -
No, that was from a tv show/news some months ago. Claiming something like 7 years of development for new missile, 30 test shots fired and so on. last slide was for weight, 89 kilos, 3 meter length, 20 km range. Of course the figures are most probably guesstimates or very rough rounding downs.
This is a show of a local tv station. They are just as informed as we fanboys, often less informed actually.
You have very good infos here with also laser designator
Chinese laser guided bombs
Many Chinese manufacturers offer Bgls the domestic market and for export include for example -
• 'Tiange "family (TG-xx-xx or GB) of land armaments group NORINCO
• the "Feiteng" family (FT-xx) aerospace group CASC
• YZ family aerospace group CASIC (* thank you Bruno Rouers for the reminder, see comments)
• the "Lei Shi" family (LS-xx) the AVIC aeronautics group
These families come in several categories and different guidance modes, ranging from 50kg to 000kg smaller to 1 for the largest. Of planed versions are also available.
The first generation of BGL selected by the Air Force and the Chinese Navy is LS500J the AVIC Group. This is the BGL that the J-10 used in the television broadcast of the beginning.
The LS500J, also known as LT-2 name for its export version, which weighs 564kg 450kg of explosive charge. 10km et il peut atteindre une précision de CEP ≤ 6,5m selon son constructeur. ">Its range is> 10km and can achieve a CEP accuracy ≤ 6.5m according to its manufacturer.
Guided by a double laser beam and capable of performing an S maneuver when approaching the target, this Chinese BGL remains nevertheless a bomb of the first generation with the digital guide, like the US GBU-16 Paveway II . The target must remain illuminated until impact, which means that the designator on the ground or flying rocket with a pod must remain on area to guide the bomb, which exposes them to potential danger during flying bombs.
In the top story pilots say they have had to remain above the target for the "tens of second" flying bombs.
For new laser guided bombs, the Chinese army seems to have chosen the TG-250 and TG models of 250kg-500kg of 500 NORINCO group. Their range is greater than 20km and the accuracy is less than 4m CEP.
The guidance mode "proportional" and a wider field of vision of the seeker, these two new models of HMOs can limit the loss of energy of the bomb for course correction, we can achieve more planée great range and better accuracy.
A version with a glider kit is also available for TG-250, its scope is extended to over 80km, higher than most of the close air defense systems.
LGB « Tiange » NORINCO
Chinese laser guided bombs
Many Chinese manufacturers offer Bgls the domestic market and for export include for example -
• 'Tiange "family (TG-xx-xx or GB) of land armaments group NORINCO
• the "Feiteng" family (FT-xx) aerospace group CASC
• YZ family aerospace group CASIC (* thank you Bruno Rouers for the reminder, see comments)
• the "Lei Shi" family (LS-xx) the AVIC aeronautics group
These families come in several categories and different guidance modes, ranging from 50kg to 000kg smaller to 1 for the largest. Of planed versions are also available.
The first generation of BGL selected by the Air Force and the Chinese Navy is LS500J the AVIC Group. This is the BGL that the J-10 used in the television broadcast of the beginning.
The LS500J, also known as LT-2 name for its export version, which weighs 564kg 450kg of explosive charge. 10km et il peut atteindre une précision de CEP ≤ 6,5m selon son constructeur. ">Its range is> 10km and can achieve a CEP accuracy ≤ 6.5m according to its manufacturer.
Guided by a double laser beam and capable of performing an S maneuver when approaching the target, this Chinese BGL remains nevertheless a bomb of the first generation with the digital guide, like the US GBU-16 Paveway II . The target must remain illuminated until impact, which means that the designator on the ground or flying rocket with a pod must remain on area to guide the bomb, which exposes them to potential danger during flying bombs.
In the top story pilots say they have had to remain above the target for the "tens of second" flying bombs.
For new laser guided bombs, the Chinese army seems to have chosen the TG-250 and TG models of 250kg-500kg of 500 NORINCO group. Their range is greater than 20km and the accuracy is less than 4m CEP.
The guidance mode "proportional" and a wider field of vision of the seeker, these two new models of HMOs can limit the loss of energy of the bomb for course correction, we can achieve more planée great range and better accuracy.
A version with a glider kit is also available for TG-250, its scope is extended to over 80km, higher than most of the close air defense systems.
LGB « Tiange » NORINCO
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
China Unveils New Mini-missile, Targets Foreign Sales
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February 8, 2017
China can now offer users of its combat drones a new missile designed for anti-terrorism operations and low-intensity conflicts.
The China Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics, the country’s largest military drone exporter by number of products sold overseas, said it recently conducted live-fire tests on the AR-2 short-range air-to-surface missile in north-western China.
A CH-4 reconnaissance/combat drone was used in the tests, though the missile can also be mounted on other CH drones, officials said. The academy’s CH-series drones have been sold to military users in over 10 countries.
The missile also can be carried by Chinese attack helicopters and other unmanned aircraft after minor technical modifications, they said.
With a weight of about 20 kilograms and a 5-kg warhead, an AR-2 has a maximum range of 8 kilometers and a top speed of 735 kilometers per hour. It is effective against personnel, armored cars, houses or bunkers, its designers said.
Zeng Like, project manager for the AR-2, said that the academy hopes to win market share from the United States’ AGM-114 Hellfire, widely used in the 1990s and 2000s. At least 29 nations, including Australia, France and South Korea, deploy the Hellfire, according to Jane’s Weapon Systems.
“There are a lot of counterterrorism operations and low-intensity conflicts in the world that create a huge demand for low-cost, high-efficiency weapons to hit cars or light-duty, armored vehicles,” he said. “We believe that most ground targets designated for drones are soft targets or lightly armored vehicles, so using a heavier missile such as the AGM-114 Hellfire for such operations is a waste.”
Smaller, cheaper missiles like the AR-2 are powerful enough to handle those targets, and their lighter weight enables a drone to carry more missiles, Zeng said.
The AR-2’s biggest competitors are the US’ AGM-176 Griffin, currently the best-selling lightweight precision-strike weapon, France’s Lightweight Multirole Missile and Israel’s Whip Shot missile, he said.
But, Zeng said, “the AR-2 features strong capabilities and a lower price, so we are positive it will have good market prospects”.
Many of the academy’s clients now use the bigger, heavier AR-1 missile with CH drones, he said.
In another development, the academy said trainees from one of its foreign clients performed a test in which four CH drones were networked to perform as a fleet.
Ground controllers from the unnamed foreign nation who were trained at the academy guided four CH-4B drones via satellite to work together in a patrol.
Huang Wei, a senior researcher who oversaw the test, said the networking of multiple drones is useful for joint operations in combat. Huang said only China and the US are capable of conducting joint operations using multiple drones.
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