Chinese air to ground weapons (missiles, PGMs, etc)

Totoro

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Yeah. But they're really jumping the gun here. That one image is simply not enough to be sure if we're looking at a real missile or someone's attempt to fabricate it. I'd personally wait for some more images to corroborate everything.
 

Deino

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Yeah. But they're really jumping the gun here. That one image is simply not enough to be sure if we're looking at a real missile or someone's attempt to fabricate it. I'd personally wait for some more images to corroborate everything.


I agree with you that we need to be careful, often enough we have been fooled by manipulated images. However it is not "That one image" but a brief sequence of images in a video. That alone does not prove anything but it makes a fake at least more difficult and maybe more unlikely.


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Totoro

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I wish i could see that video. someone linked the video but for me it wouldn't play.
Faking a video is certainly harder but depending on the details of the shot, it's far from being prohibitively hard.
 

by78

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An unknown munition penetrating a reinforced shelter.

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Blitzo

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This apparently is a new warhead for the DF-15 missile, not a munition carried by bombers or fighters.

From the same video it seems like...
These particular images certainly do look more like a ballistic missile warhead. But without a clear image of the munition that impacts the hardened aircraft shelter it's harder to say if it's also a ballistic missile. Being able to watch the video for context would be useful.

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But TBH I'm not even sure if it's necessarily a new warhead.
We've known they've had bunker busting warheads for DF-15 and DF-11 for many years now, this may just be the first time they're releasing footage of it.
 

Blitzo

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Seems like an expensive way to demolish a bunker but I guess it could be useful for critical targets.

Depends on the bunker.

If you're targeting a bunker with just a machine gun crew, yeah a ballistic missile bunker buster probably isn't necessary. Even if you're targeting a single hardened aircraft shelter, depending on the aircraft inside and the overall operational air picture, it might not be worth it.

But if it's a bunker that you know probably has high level command staff or is a C4I node, then that's where this kind of weapon would come in greater use.
 
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