China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft

Atomicfrog

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They've sanctioned the Boeing and Airbus airplanes in Russia. And also the subsystems that Russia was using to produce their domestic airliner.

Even the C919 is suffering because of issues with US sourced subsystems.

So I agree that China has to ensure that there are no Western components or subsystems at all in the CR929. China should have enough experience now (with the ARJ-21 and also the C919) to develop domestic alternatives and should have a large enough market to support this.
China market is big by itself and could support a fleet of these aircraft. The only problem is the certification mayhem to go and sell abroad.
 

blindsight

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western components help with certification process in western countries; if they sanction Chinese planes they'll also be sanctioning their own companies and whose to say China won't already have the machining and tooling for those components?
Huawei uses a lot of chips made by western companies, so what?
 

by78

General
Nobody seems sure about status of AN-225, but one thing for sure: CR929 is a question mark now. Original plans called for Western engines, and a considerable amount of western content. I had always assumed China and Russia would somehow fall out over this project, or on some other issue. Could China take it forward without Russia's involvement? Could Russia, somehow, remain quietly involved in the programme?

Russian involvement is definitely dead. Any hint of russian involvement will invite western embargoes.

Best thing that could happen is Russia sells key engine and composite tech to china. Then at least they'd get some cash injection.

China is big enough to take on the C929 by itself.

Lol, there is no point in making the CR929 if it is dependent on Western components. They will sanction it to death the moment it looks like it might be successful. That was obvious before this week.

western components help with certification process in western countries; if they sanction Chinese planes they'll also be sanctioning their own companies and whose to say China won't already have the machining and tooling for those components?

They've sanctioned the Boeing and Airbus airplanes in Russia. And also the subsystems that Russia was using to produce their domestic airliner.

Even the C919 is suffering because of issues with US sourced subsystems.

So I agree that China has to ensure that there are no Western components or subsystems at all in the CR929. China should have enough experience now (with the ARJ-21 and also the C919) to develop domestic alternatives and should have a large enough market to support this.

This is NOT the CR919 or CR929 thread. :mad:
 

Deino

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Several Y-20A transports assigned to the 4th Transport Division during a recent exercise and at least the serial numbers 11156, 11158 and 11159 are visible, making no. 11159 - aka bort number 19 - the highest number spotted within that unit so far.

(Image by CCTV-7 via @沉默的山羊 from Weibo)

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by78

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Parachutists embark and disembark.

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