China's Space Program Thread II

anzha

Captain
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It seems that ever since they put Zhurong Mars rover in sleep mode last May,they can not wake it up now,unable to establish connection with it

NASA has had multiple problems with this. Insight (lander) was just lost due to dust buildup. It's probable that's how Spirit and Opportunity were lost as well.

I hope we are being SCMPed - Minnie, is that you? - but spacenews is reporting via SCMP Tianwen-1 might be having a problem, too.

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SanWenYu

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NASA has had multiple problems with this. Insight (lander) was just lost due to dust buildup. It's probable that's how Spirit and Opportunity were lost as well.

I hope we are being SCMPed - Minnie, is that you? - but spacenews is reporting via SCMP Tianwen-1 might be having a problem, too.

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According to CASC, while it has reached the designed life, Tianwen-1 is still in good shape and continues to carry out scientific exploration duties around Mars.

The news says nothing about Zhurong the rover though. It does mention that it's just spring equinox on Mars (火星新近迎来了春分). So it's probably still too early for Zhurong to wake up from its winter hibernation.

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中国航天科技集团八院509所1月6日发布消息称,远在火星执行全球遥感科学探测任务的天问一号火星环绕器,新近已顺利环绕火星飞行一个火星年,达到设计寿命。

中国于2020年7月23日开启首次自主火星探测任务,发射天问一号火星探测器,该探测器由环绕器和着陆巡视器组成。

自2020年7月23日发射开始,天问一号火星环绕器踏上奔火征途,完成深空机动、四次轨道修正,飞行了约4.5亿公里,于2021年2月10日精准实施火星捕获制动。

一个火星年相当于687个地球日。从2021年2月10日至2022年12月29日,天问一号火星环绕器顺利环绕火星飞行一个火星年。

火星新近迎来了春分,这也标志着火星进入了新的一年。目前,火星环绕器在距离地球大概九千万公里的火星探测岗位上坚守,持续开展环火科学探测工作,状态良好。(完)
 

gelgoog

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Regarding the YF-75E LOX/LH2 upper stage engine. The torch ignition, if it is what I think it is, is basically capable of multiple ignitions. This means the engine will be multiple restart capable. For example for putting satellite constellations into orbit with multiple satellites per launch. This is different from using expendable pyrotechnic ignition.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
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So the root of the "news" is from SCMP who always have internal source that can never be revealed and verified. :confused:

Any such solar powered rovers will die eventually in a short few years. SCMP writers are basically betting on that "they will eventually be proven right". It is same as fortune telling.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
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NASA has had multiple problems with this. Insight (lander) was just lost due to dust buildup. It's probable that's how Spirit and Opportunity were lost as well.

I hope we are being SCMPed - Minnie, is that you? - but spacenews is reporting via SCMP Tianwen-1 might be having a problem, too.

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It is not Minnie Chen, but SCMP in general is trash.
 

taxiya

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Regarding the YF-75E LOX/LH2 upper stage engine. The torch ignition, if it is what I think it is,
As I understand torch ignition is to keep a small flame when the engine is shutdown, the small flame is used to re-ignite the engine. I guess this is what you thought?
is basically capable of multiple ignitions. This means the engine will be multiple restart capable. For example for putting satellite constellations into orbit with multiple satellites per launch. This is different from using expendable pyrotechnic ignition.
I think most ignition methods are able for multiple restart. Pyrotechnic (火药点火) is done by multiple cartridges such as YF-100M and YF-100N are able to re-ignited for the 2nd time using two cartridges. While YF-100(K) is one time ignition.

BTW, YF-75 (CZ-7A) and YF-75D (CZ-5) are all capable of two ignitions. I don't know if they are torch or pyrotechnic though. Pay attention, YF-75E is the first low pressure torch ignition as the article said, it is the only torch ignition engine. I know YF-90 is torch ignition, so as the 200t methane engine.

Torch ignition's advantage is that the flame is maintained by the fuel, so there is unlimited number of times of re-ignition instead of the number of cartridges. It is like one can try to re-start the car in a cold day as long as there is electricity in the battery.
 
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taxiya

Brigadier
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As I understand torch ignition is to keep a small flame when the engine is shutdown, the small flame is used to re-ignite the engine. I guess this is what you thought?

I think most ignition methods are able for multiple restart. Pyrotechnic (火药点火) is done by multiple cartridges such as YF-100M and YF-100N are able to re-ignited for the 2nd time using two cartridges. While YF-100(K) is one time ignition.

BTW, YF-75 (CZ-7A) and YF-75D (CZ-5) are all capable of two ignitions. I don't know if they are torch or pyrotechnic though. Pay attention, YF-75E is the first low pressure torch ignition as the article said, it is the only torch ignition engine. I know YF-90 is torch ignition, so as the 200t methane engine.

Torch ignition's advantage is that the flame is maintained by the fuel, so there is unlimited number of times of re-ignition instead of the number of cartridges. It is like one can try to re-start the car in a cold day as long as there is electricity in the battery.
correction,
it is not the only torch ignition engine.
 

by78

General
A high-resolution image from yesterday's Zhuque-2 launch.

A launch video in 4K.


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