China's Space Program Thread II

by78

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China has officially opened the manned lunar rover project to private sector participants.

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Announcement on the Collection of Development Plans for Manned Lunar Moon Rover_China Manned Spaceflight Official Website​

According to the plan of the manned lunar exploration project, the Chinese will land on the moon for the first time by 2030, during which two astronauts will drive a manned lunar rover to carry out scientific research activities. According to the current mission design, the manned lunar rover will have manned driving, lunar surface movement, positioning support, safety assistance and other functions, which can provide astronauts with mobility, communication, exploration assistance and other guarantees.

In order to absorb high-quality social forces to participate in the development of manned lunar rover, explore a commercial development model suitable for the implementation of the mission, and further improve the benefits of the project, an announcement is now issued to the whole society to solicit the development plan of manned lunar rover. In the future, according to the collection of the plan, we will organize the selection of merit and select the advantageous team to carry out the development of the sample car.

II. Contents of the collection plan

According to the main requirements of the development of the manned lunar rover, the overall development plan of the manned rover is proposed. The specific content of the plan should include the demonstration of mission requirements, the overall plan design, the main key technologies, the safety and reliability design, the development process, the quality progress guarantee, the business model, the funding requirements, etc.

III. Application Unit Conditions

(1) Organizations that have been established for more than two years, with independent legal personality and sound organization can participate, and can be jointly declared by one or more.

(2) Have the technology and research and development strength that match the task.

(3) Have a sound and effective research and development and quality management system.

(4) Good operating conditions and good performance credit.

IV. Relevant requirements

The intended unit should submit the application for intention (see the attachment) within 15 days of the announcement to receive the main requirements for the development of the manned lunar rover; submit the development plan in the name of the unit before the end of August; after that, the organizer will organize the program competition review.
 

Helius

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Their labels should also write their pinyin names in correct order, not backwards.
I see them as doing this for the benefit of the Chinese-illiterate, which is the point of including English on their uniforms at all in the first place. The CNSA is also an internationally-facing organisation as much as a national one e.g. UNOOSA.

If you want to be ethno-centric about it, one way to read this is that they're being courteous to the English-centric Western norms when it comes to naming conventions, but at the same time somewhat cheeky in that it also shows they have no expectation from any non-Chinese in their knowledge, or lack thereof, of Chinese naming conventions at all.
 

by78

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Another successful test run of the 130-ton YF-100K engine for the Long March 10 Moon rocket.

【载人登月火箭长征十号主发动机YF-100K累计试车时长突破3300秒】5月28日上午,由西安航天动力研究所研究设计的130吨级泵后摆液氧煤油发动机完成了上台后的第六次试车,试车取得圆满成功。至此,YF-100K发动机累计试车时长达到了3300秒,再次创造了我国百吨级发动机单台试车的新纪录!该发动机为我国未来载人登月火箭主力发动机...
On the morning of May 28, the 130-ton liquid oxygen kerosene engine being developed by the Xi'an Aerospace Propulsion Research Institute successfully completed its 6th test run. So far, the cumulative running time of the YF-100K engine has reached 3,300 seconds.

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This is a big deal. China is constructing a factory capable of producing 50 LM8 rockets per year in Hainan, slated to be completed some time in 2024. Will be used to launch a large constellation of SSO communications and observation satellites similar to starlink but at a higher altitude. Should be able to launch 1000 satellites per year or more.

So far as I know this will be the first time that China applies pulsating production lines to the manufacturing of rockets. LM8 is a small and non-reusable model, with only about 5 metric tons to SSO, but experience gained here could potentially be used on much larger models in the future. Imagine the uplift that could be achieved with using these methods on the LM5B or even LM9 sometime next decade.

One thing I am confused about: This seems like a stopgap to stay in the game for the rest of the 2020's before the reusable LM9 is ready. However, the same author who wrote this article also wrote one on the reusable spaceplane project recently, where interviewed Chinese engineers described it in the same way: as a means to stay competitive with SpaceX while the LM9 is still in development. So I am a little confused as to what exactly each projects' purpose is. Maybe there are multiple competing efforts, or maybe the boost phase of the space plane could also be produced using pulsating production lines once the necessary experience is gained.
 

gelgoog

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Multiple projects. China is applying its massive industrial heft to solving the problem of access to space.
I personally think Long March 10 has the best changes of success at this point. But this Long March 8 launcher might be possible to launch from available legacy pads in the future.
 
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