China's Space Program Thread II

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The LOX/kerosene fuel tank of the re-usable Pallas-1 rocket being developed by the private startup Galactic Energy. The maiden launch of Pallas-1 is expected in 2024.

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Here's a section of the Pallas-1 rocket on the assembly floor.

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Visitors enjoy an expo displaying China's aerospace industry was held in Hefei of Anhui province on Monday with exhibits including Chang'e-5 return vehicle; samples from Lunar; and models of a carrier rocket, space suit and Tianwen 1.[Photos/Xinhua]

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Visitors enjoy an expo displaying China's aerospace industry was held in Hefei of Anhui province on Monday with exhibits including Chang'e-5 return vehicle; samples from Lunar; and models of a carrier rocket, space suit and Tianwen 1.[Photos/Xinhua]

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Michael90

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Late 2030s-early 2040s for regular 100t LEO first-stage reusable launches, is very slow if SpaceX Starship achieves success in a few years. That would be at least a 15 year gap with SpaceX
To be honest, it's not really slow for a state owned space company. Private companies can take more risks than state owned ones for obvious reasons. Plus we know that public companies run differently from private companies. Just look at how fast and ambitious SpaceX is working towards its projects and how they are willing to even tolerate several failures in their first launches just to quickly iron out any issues facing a new rocket.
So I will say CNSA is doing well if we consider how slow other state run space agences from major other space powers are doing at the moment. But yes compared to SpaceX everyone is far behind to be honest. SpaceX surprised everybody. We also have to commend the US government for supporting private space companies and giving them the opportunity to thrive and compete on a level playing field with the older more established US space companies that already had a long running relationship with NASA and US government.
 

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Visitors enjoy an expo displaying China's aerospace industry was held in Hefei of Anhui province on Monday with exhibits including Chang'e-5 return vehicle; samples from Lunar; and models of a carrier rocket, space suit and Tianwen 1.[Photos/Xinhua]

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That 3rd photo, is that YF-25? also from what mission is it from?
 

taxiya

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We will see 7 YF-100K power test this year.

"2023年,以新一代载人登月运载火箭芯一级动力系统试车为代表的军品科研生产任务更加繁重"

"In 2023, the military research and production tasks represented by the test run of the primary power system of the new generation of manned lunar launch vehicle core will be more onerous"

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I think you misinterpreted the sentence. 7 YF-100K is to be about 840t thrust, the mounting rack has the dimension of near 5 meters. China does not have that kind of test rig. The largest one just completed few days ago was maximum 700t for one YF-130 engine far smaller than 5 meters. Also, China has never done a full rocket stage ground based test, not in their development methodology.

The text could simply mean that they are going to do various test on YF-100K. At most, a few engine running together to verify the control system managing multiple engines. But it would be far from testing the full bundle of 7 engines running close to its designed thrust.
 

gelgoog

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It is common today to do a wet dress rehearsal and stage hold-down test before launching a new rocket. Some claim the stage hold-down test is sufficient and you do not need to test the stage on its own test stand.
 

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I think you misinterpreted the sentence. 7 YF-100K is to be about 840t thrust, the mounting rack has the dimension of near 5 meters. China does not have that kind of test rig. The largest one just completed few days ago was maximum 700t for one YF-130 engine far smaller than 5 meters. Also, China has never done a full rocket stage ground based test, not in their development methodology.

The text could simply mean that they are going to do various test on YF-100K. At most, a few engine running together to verify the control system managing multiple engines. But it would be far from testing the full bundle of 7 engines running close to its designed thrust.

They could test the 7 YF-100K engines on a fully built Long March 10 core (minus the cone).

The core can be horizontally mounted on a test stand, i.e. the same way the Space Shuttle / SLS Solid Booster static test was done in a desert test area.
 
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