China's Space Program News Thread
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Carrier Killer? More irresponsible fear mongering from the British free press.
Just click bait nonsense is all.
Please delete previous message, I don't know how to quote, but I was replying to Blackstone
Its true China still needs 100ton + LEO rocket like Saturn V to match what US did in the 1960s
But few people know that, by today's standard, Saturn V is still state of the art technology for 2016, and when US give up on that rocket, they actually have lost the technology and know-how.
Because for a rocket as complex as Saturn V, you need millions of parts, and many of those parts were customize build by company and R&D that was created for them only. Once US govt decide they no longer need it, all of those company and special assemble knowledge literally became useless overnight.
Also I don't think they lost the blueprint for Saturn V, but there is only so much blueprint can do, a lot of assembly and constructions cannot be recorded on paper, they are passed down from man to man, word to word. And once it stops, all the secrets are lost.
With the success of LM5, I would say right now, China is on part with some of the world's best current heavy lift rockets.
US is still ahead, because they have started research on the SLS a decade years earlier than China, and they still some know-how and blueprints from Saturn V, but I don't think by so much judging by the difficulty and timeline of its development. Falcon Heavy on the other hand, if successful will be a huge difference, but it is 50ton LEO rocket is still half of SLS or Long March 9
From what I see it, 1960s Saturn V is irrelevant for today. So its not a race between 1960s USA vs 2010s China
Now its a race between 2030s SLS vs 2030s Long March 9, right now SLS's progress ahead, but never underestimate China.
In the end, this competition benefit both side as well as all mankind, everyone wins.
Its true China still needs 100ton + LEO rocket like Saturn V to match what US did in the 1960s
But few people know that, by today's standard, Saturn V is still state of the art technology for 2016, and when US give up on that rocket, they actually have lost the technology and know-how.
Because for a rocket as complex as Saturn V, you need millions of parts, and many of those parts were customize build by company and R&D that was created for them only. Once US govt decide they no longer need it, all of those company and special assemble knowledge literally became useless overnight.
Also I don't think they lost the blueprint for Saturn V, but there is only so much blueprint can do, a lot of assembly and constructions cannot be recorded on paper, they are passed down from man to man, word to word. And once it stops, all the secrets are lost.
With the success of LM5, I would say right now, China is on part with some of the world's best current heavy lift rockets.
US is still ahead, because they have started research on the SLS a decade years earlier than China, and they still some know-how and blueprints from Saturn V, but I don't think by so much judging by the difficulty and timeline of its development. Falcon Heavy on the other hand, if successful will be a huge difference, but it is 50ton LEO rocket is still half of SLS or Long March 9
From what I see it, 1960s Saturn V is irrelevant for today. So its not a race between 1960s USA vs 2010s China
Now its a race between 2030s SLS vs 2030s Long March 9, right now SLS's progress ahead, but never underestimate China.
In the end, this competition benefit both side as well as all mankind, everyone wins.
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"if General Secretary Xi gives approval, we will be able to make this happen in 10 years"..
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